CHURCH WORKING TO FACILITATE DIALOGUE BETWEEN EDGAR LUNGU AND PRESIDENT HICHILEMA
The Declaration of Zambia as a Christian Nation steering committee says the church is working in the background to ensure that former President Edgar Lungu and President Hakainde Hichilema dialogue for the good of the nation.
Speaking to journalists in Lusaka today, Committee Chairperson Bishop Billy Mfula says the church is aware of the several calls for it to take the leading role in bring the two leaders together but that the discussions in the background are not yet for public consumption.
Bishop Mfula is hopeful that the results from the ongoing discussions will be fruitful and will be visible to the public.
He has however stated that reconciliation must be a personal decision which he says cannot be imposed upon any individual.
Meanwhile, Bishop Mfula has announced Sunday, December 29th 2024 as the day to commemorate 33 years of Zambia’s declaration as a Christian nation.
At the same event, Director National Guidance and Religious Affairs in the office of the vice President Dr. Sunday Mwape has appealed to civil servants and other government partners to take part in the event which will be commemorated across the country.
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As long as that family returns the LOOT. Dialogue should not insulate the fight against plunder.
Agreed!
Let him first return all the money he has stashed in Panama. That money belongs to tax payers.
He can never justify making hundreds of millions of US Dollars on the back of a power country like Zambia. That is just plain selfish and immoral.
What does he even plan to do with all that money anyway? Fact is, when he dies, that money will never come back to Zambia.
Vote with your hungry stomachs.
Vote wisely in 2026.
IndigoTyrol, it looks like you need to look for a better psychiatrist, or maybe you are just not taking your medication. Otherwise, you’re a futile case.
So that they discuss what exactly??????
Lungu’s quarrel is with the law he violated, not with HH. Let Lungu man up and face the law. Don’t bring HH into your nonsense. HH is not the one who sent Lungu to violate the law and steal from Zambians.
You are 100% correct, what is there to discuss? Such maneuvers only make the church look dumb and unreasonable. Edgar lost, and he needs to man up and own up for his way forward. Any misdeeds, either by him or by his family, must be met with justice, period. Those preachers in robs do not hesitate to excommunicate the erring ones in their community. Let them man up, too, and stop fooling us.
One has to give standing ovation to the two comments. When someone says they are a snake. Take them at their word. And treat them as such.
Stole, let the law speak, benefits…who called them crumbs? Politics….you made your bed sleep in it.
So manje what are we really wanting to discuss?
RB did his part, what did HH have to do with an adult like Miles Sampa. Didnt Miles latertell us they have reconciled? Where was HH in that discussion?
Stop looking for what isnt there, in other people. The law will deal with any infraction Lungu and his family has committed, period
What do you want them to dialogue on? Lungu and his minions want to come back to power and that has nothing to do with HH. Even when the law has barred him to stand in 2026, he has not given up and wants to use plan B which he has not disclosed to anyone outside PF circles. So does using plan B need any dialogue with HH? It doesn’t. Please don’t abuse the president and stop wasting his time, he is busy with national duties. No unnecessary dialogues.
Personally I do not understand what this is about.
What exactly are the issues at play?
33yrs later the steering committee on declaring Zambia a Christian nation still exists? Been doing what all these years?
The challenge is the reasoning of some pastors. They think that prosecution of Lungu is persecution because they are not in talking terms with HH. Therefore, they assume that once they meet they will iron out their differences and cases will be dropped and that is reconciliation. Such is the low calibre of reasoning, not sure but most probably due to poor education. Unfortunately, there is little one can do because these guys do not see their intellectual deficiencies and do not accept to be educated that there is no persecution but criminal prosecution which does not need any dialogue at all. That type of leaders be it in the church or political (PF was full of such), in my view do not deserve any of the leadership positions that they occupy or aspire for. This is what is called ignorance based leadership. Some well educated people fall into this category, sad to say.
But sure, LUNGU is the problem not HH. Where was the Church when Lungu did sll bad things on HH including TONGAS.
Whee was this Church when HH was incarcerated in MUKOBEKO by Lungu.
Where was this very Church when Lungus cadres invaded HHs house defecated in the room, gassed the family and did all bad things on HH.
Please be sober not to love dirty money from Lungu you the clergy
Dialogue and reconciliation goes with genuine repentance, acceptance and forgiveness.
The church should understand that the role of the state in handling issues of politics, rule of law, constitution and economy should be differentiated from the role of the president. When the State pursues thieves and the corrupt it should be viewed as persecuting the former first family. No one is above the law and people should not see president Hakainde Hichilema as a vengeful person.
Similarly, if former president Edgar Chagwa Lungu committed crimes and other atrocities it is appropriate that he faces the rule of law.
Corrected version @knowledge
Dialogue and reconciliation goes with genuine repentance, acceptance and forgiveness.
The church should understand that the role of the state in handling issues of politics, rule of law, constitution and economy should be differentiated from the role of the president. When the State pursues thieves and the corrupt it should not be viewed as persecuting the former first family. No one is above the law and people should not see president Hakainde Hichilema as a vengeful person.
Similarly, if former president Edgar Chagwa Lungu committed crimes and other atrocities it is appropriate that he faces the rule of law.
Where was the church when lungu was attacking HH???
Where was the church when lungu was raping Zambia???
Where was the church when lungu was killing Zambians???
The church is as corrupt as lungu and PF.
The church has become an extension of the satanic people of lungu.
Church = PF sympathiser
I hope this dialogue doesn’t frustrate the fight against corruption. Otherwise it’s not worth it. Let the law take it’s course after it’s done with first family then the issue of dialogue can come in. Just for interests sake why didn’t dialogue take place when HH was in prison or immediately after his release? Why has it become necessary now? If you want to frustrate fight against corruption then Keep dialogue to yourselves!
Former first family@Mutale
The church has failed on this matter so many occasions. Sometimes, there is a reason why the north so far to the south and they would never meet. The reason is but all to see.
Let this compromised church look for something else to do rather than start interfering with governance. They should be worried about Lungu’s morals and the issue of Zambia being a Christian nation. Christianity calls for justice and not useless premeditated dialogues by the corrupt Church who are sharing Lungu’s loot in the dark. Where were these so called the church when Lungu was running Zambia like a kantemba?