The self entitled are missing this. It won’t happen again
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Just fire that man no need of justifying the wrong thing if you are not careful this behavior may cost you,we know PF criminals were too tribal and should not be the yardstick for you guys.Im upnd supporter but on this issue I’m not happy HH could have fired this man by so doing people could have believed HH that he doesn’t tolerate tribalism in Zambia.
This, indeed was a very shameful period in Zambian history.PF madness went deep down to the core of our nation.It demands a national day commemoration.However, Zambians must find it in themselves to forgive and begin to heal for our own survival, because divided,we shall surely fall
I am UPND and Bemba and have been since 2000. I have never supported the selective “inner circle” Northern and Eastern tribalism. All the people listed were inner circle connected wako ni wakos.
I was fired several times by fellow bemba as well as my ‘mbuya’ easterners for “not belonging”. I was victimized by Lozis and tribally ostracized by tongas when I was living in Choma and by Lozis in Livingstone when I lived there too. I have been to all corners of Zambia and have been face to face with the negative ravages of this ugly thing called tribalism.
I hated, and still do, Bemba tribalism and cronyism, nyanja tribalism and their CHIMBUYA pretence to use and dump bembas like I was used. I hate Lozi ostracism of bembas having been a victim at zesco. I have Tonga tribalism of which I was a victim as a UPND member in Choma which culminated at council chambers during the campaigns for President Anderson Mazoka and the first MP for Choma central.
So I am asking our Tonga brothers not to succumb to this lure to do what PF fid while in power and what UPND did and is doing quietly. It must stop. It’s not good. I am talking from experience here. Good people must not remain silent…they should advise their brothers and sisters against this powerful force. It is a poisoned chalice and I vividly remember KK warned us about it.
Well spoken, I am a hardcore UPND and Ila/Tonga by tribe. I agree with you 100 + 1%. Let’s build Zambia please. Let’s see things beyond tribe. That CEO has no place in this democratic dispensation, he must be fired. HH do the needful.
Is Twalumba a Bemba iwe? You go around circles ,eh this and that, cos no! You are not a UPND member and being Bemba yes you cud be but, why use a Tonga name on your profile? Why lie? You see, you be the chaps that work for Emmanuel Mwamba – propagandists! You go around abt bring victimised by Lozi & The Tongas yet, not mentioning nothing of the real “Institutional” tribalism under PF – which is the main matter here, and not you going to Gwembe or whereever – who cares abt u anyway? No one! People here are talking abt Government employment, and not your personal hunger-everyone goes thru that. Propagandist.
So because PF was tribal so UPND should also be tribal? This is why we got rid of PF and if you want us to get rid of YOU, then continue with the foolishness of justifying irresponsible behaviour.
The RTSA CEO is a danger to national cohesion and HE MUST GO.
With this above there was no tribalism but now that all provinces are covered that is when tribalism is recorded? Cilumina galu kuluma mbuzi ati mbuzi ngati yaluma galu vankhala vine. You people we must be real. The biggest problem we have is that we easily and simply forget. It is a known fact though that these people from opposition are just hate because HH is on the reign, not all these they are trying to bring out now. We are free now, actually I can say since 2021 August 12 th Zambians got real Independence. How can the entire country with different tribes for more than 50 years only ruled by 2 tribes? This is ridiculous to mention the least. There are 72 tribes in Zambia and all these tribes must enjoy the wealth of this country. This country belongs to us all. The fact is PF was the most tribal party, at least mmd and unip tried. It was not as it came out clearly with PF. This party had no care about any thing, nowonder they treated people in any way they felt like. We are free now and the same people want to bring in division. We must do all we can to let HH unity the country by helping him retain the rule again so that what remained in past years of his rule to be corrected he must do it these few years coming. HH is not after milking the nation, already he has resources all he wants is to do good to all Zambians. We don’t want to go back to a rule where only few had liberty. All those with hearts for their country must think positively and do just. Thanks to the Arthur of this article
Ba Amaye please don’t lecture us on HH having resources. When it comes to wealth, no one ever says “I have made enough”. HH is not immune to abusing his authority for.selfish ends. That is why we need to know the assets and liabilties of the President so that we can track its progress. Unfortunately, both the current president and.his predecessor adamantly refused to publicly declare their assets and liabilities. This is a control which allows the public to monitor presidential wealth.
Trust is good but control is better. The fact that HH is wealthy doesnot.in itself guarantee that he cannot abuse his office to create even more wealth for himself and his family. We saw what happened to the Lungu family. They became very wealthy but that didnot stop them from grabbing some more.
Wonder how we can eradicate this cancer of tribalism.
If you look statistically at how we have intermarried across tribes in Zambia,and seeing this urgly face of tribalism;it really pains me.Its disgusting!!
We all know that PF was the most tribal project Zambia has ever had. Now that we see there is balancing of some sort, let’s work hard to rid ourselves of that evil practice called tribalism. At grassroot level we live as one, therefore what stops us doing the same when appointments are made. I look forward to a day when we will have only one tribe called Zambian.
One MUST celebrate their tribe, without any apology….or like in many cases now, due to intermarriages, you can celebrate several tribes! And each tribe MUST acknowledge and mutually respect the other.
The painful and sad reality is when one tribe or tribes look down upon the other….this is always the recipe for terrible hate crimes and killings throughout history…..there is no need for the tribe to die in order for the Nation to survive….no….rather we need to celebrate the many positive attributes of each other’s languages and customs…..there is richness in diversity!
Trying to justify the unjustifiable.
Self destructing in real Time. A sacred has been caught in the act of Tribalism, and Tribal Zealots are trying to justify it.
Continue on the divisive path you have chosen, and you will reap what you are sowing.
We are not fools.
History attests to the fact that once you create a special people within a population, a sacred group with special Privileges, Sacreds and Untouchables , theres always a backlash.
A leader who delves into such Waters, favouring one group over others, Imprisoning one group, and leaving the other group commiting similar offenses scot-free, is not doing the Sacred group any favors..but creating a lot of problems for it.
Once the rest of the population realizes that this is part of a Well planned methodical Agenda, of favouritism, of some being more equal than others, there’s bound to be a reaction…and as day surely follows night, even stealing a teaspoon of salt by a Sacred, will result in the whole population rising up to ensure that the untouchable Salt Thief , the favoured sacred , faces the full wrath of the law.
Let the Sacreds continue justifying the unjustifiable, they are living an illusion for the time of reckoning is now with us, and no Sacred will be allowed to go Scot-free , be it Corruption or Murder, and the latest Sacred caught with pants down, will
sooner than later face the boot..
For the people have seen, and lived it , and have vowed , enough is enough. We are all equal under the Law.
This is what government is trying hard to correct. It is also easy to see why some people are resisting chance. Never again shall this be allowed to happen again
Just fire that man no need of justifying the wrong thing if you are not careful this behavior may cost you,we know PF criminals were too tribal and should not be the yardstick for you guys.Im upnd supporter but on this issue I’m not happy HH could have fired this man by so doing people could have believed HH that he doesn’t tolerate tribalism in Zambia.
This, indeed was a very shameful period in Zambian history.PF madness went deep down to the core of our nation.It demands a national day commemoration.However, Zambians must find it in themselves to forgive and begin to heal for our own survival, because divided,we shall surely fall
I am UPND and Bemba and have been since 2000. I have never supported the selective “inner circle” Northern and Eastern tribalism. All the people listed were inner circle connected wako ni wakos.
I was fired several times by fellow bemba as well as my ‘mbuya’ easterners for “not belonging”. I was victimized by Lozis and tribally ostracized by tongas when I was living in Choma and by Lozis in Livingstone when I lived there too. I have been to all corners of Zambia and have been face to face with the negative ravages of this ugly thing called tribalism.
I hated, and still do, Bemba tribalism and cronyism, nyanja tribalism and their CHIMBUYA pretence to use and dump bembas like I was used. I hate Lozi ostracism of bembas having been a victim at zesco. I have Tonga tribalism of which I was a victim as a UPND member in Choma which culminated at council chambers during the campaigns for President Anderson Mazoka and the first MP for Choma central.
So I am asking our Tonga brothers not to succumb to this lure to do what PF fid while in power and what UPND did and is doing quietly. It must stop. It’s not good. I am talking from experience here. Good people must not remain silent…they should advise their brothers and sisters against this powerful force. It is a poisoned chalice and I vividly remember KK warned us about it.
Well spoken, I am a hardcore UPND and Ila/Tonga by tribe. I agree with you 100 + 1%. Let’s build Zambia please. Let’s see things beyond tribe. That CEO has no place in this democratic dispensation, he must be fired. HH do the needful.
Is Twalumba a Bemba iwe? You go around circles ,eh this and that, cos no! You are not a UPND member and being Bemba yes you cud be but, why use a Tonga name on your profile? Why lie? You see, you be the chaps that work for Emmanuel Mwamba – propagandists! You go around abt bring victimised by Lozi & The Tongas yet, not mentioning nothing of the real “Institutional” tribalism under PF – which is the main matter here, and not you going to Gwembe or whereever – who cares abt u anyway? No one! People here are talking abt Government employment, and not your personal hunger-everyone goes thru that. Propagandist.
So because PF was tribal so UPND should also be tribal? This is why we got rid of PF and if you want us to get rid of YOU, then continue with the foolishness of justifying irresponsible behaviour.
The RTSA CEO is a danger to national cohesion and HE MUST GO.
I totally agree with you brotherman. That RTSA CEO must just go, no two ways about it.
With this above there was no tribalism but now that all provinces are covered that is when tribalism is recorded? Cilumina galu kuluma mbuzi ati mbuzi ngati yaluma galu vankhala vine. You people we must be real. The biggest problem we have is that we easily and simply forget. It is a known fact though that these people from opposition are just hate because HH is on the reign, not all these they are trying to bring out now. We are free now, actually I can say since 2021 August 12 th Zambians got real Independence. How can the entire country with different tribes for more than 50 years only ruled by 2 tribes? This is ridiculous to mention the least. There are 72 tribes in Zambia and all these tribes must enjoy the wealth of this country. This country belongs to us all. The fact is PF was the most tribal party, at least mmd and unip tried. It was not as it came out clearly with PF. This party had no care about any thing, nowonder they treated people in any way they felt like. We are free now and the same people want to bring in division. We must do all we can to let HH unity the country by helping him retain the rule again so that what remained in past years of his rule to be corrected he must do it these few years coming. HH is not after milking the nation, already he has resources all he wants is to do good to all Zambians. We don’t want to go back to a rule where only few had liberty. All those with hearts for their country must think positively and do just. Thanks to the Arthur of this article
Ba Amaye please don’t lecture us on HH having resources. When it comes to wealth, no one ever says “I have made enough”. HH is not immune to abusing his authority for.selfish ends. That is why we need to know the assets and liabilties of the President so that we can track its progress. Unfortunately, both the current president and.his predecessor adamantly refused to publicly declare their assets and liabilities. This is a control which allows the public to monitor presidential wealth.
Trust is good but control is better. The fact that HH is wealthy doesnot.in itself guarantee that he cannot abuse his office to create even more wealth for himself and his family. We saw what happened to the Lungu family. They became very wealthy but that didnot stop them from grabbing some more.
Wonder how we can eradicate this cancer of tribalism.
If you look statistically at how we have intermarried across tribes in Zambia,and seeing this urgly face of tribalism;it really pains me.Its disgusting!!
We all know that PF was the most tribal project Zambia has ever had. Now that we see there is balancing of some sort, let’s work hard to rid ourselves of that evil practice called tribalism. At grassroot level we live as one, therefore what stops us doing the same when appointments are made. I look forward to a day when we will have only one tribe called Zambian.
One MUST celebrate their tribe, without any apology….or like in many cases now, due to intermarriages, you can celebrate several tribes! And each tribe MUST acknowledge and mutually respect the other.
The painful and sad reality is when one tribe or tribes look down upon the other….this is always the recipe for terrible hate crimes and killings throughout history…..there is no need for the tribe to die in order for the Nation to survive….no….rather we need to celebrate the many positive attributes of each other’s languages and customs…..there is richness in diversity!
Trying to justify the unjustifiable.
Self destructing in real Time. A sacred has been caught in the act of Tribalism, and Tribal Zealots are trying to justify it.
Continue on the divisive path you have chosen, and you will reap what you are sowing.
We are not fools.
very interesting, but nothing sensible
History attests to the fact that once you create a special people within a population, a sacred group with special Privileges, Sacreds and Untouchables , theres always a backlash.
A leader who delves into such Waters, favouring one group over others, Imprisoning one group, and leaving the other group commiting similar offenses scot-free, is not doing the Sacred group any favors..but creating a lot of problems for it.
Once the rest of the population realizes that this is part of a Well planned methodical Agenda, of favouritism, of some being more equal than others, there’s bound to be a reaction…and as day surely follows night, even stealing a teaspoon of salt by a Sacred, will result in the whole population rising up to ensure that the untouchable Salt Thief , the favoured sacred , faces the full wrath of the law.
Let the Sacreds continue justifying the unjustifiable, they are living an illusion for the time of reckoning is now with us, and no Sacred will be allowed to go Scot-free , be it Corruption or Murder, and the latest Sacred caught with pants down, will
sooner than later face the boot..
For the people have seen, and lived it , and have vowed , enough is enough. We are all equal under the Law.
This is what government is trying hard to correct. It is also easy to see why some people are resisting chance. Never again shall this be allowed to happen again