HOW THE LUNGU FAMILY AND MAKEBI ZULU DUPED THE GOVT NEGOTIATORS IN SA BECAUSE THEIR CASES WERE NOT DROPPED
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I will be discussing this issue at 20:00hrs tonight, but for now read a story that was published in News Diggers yesterday.
Former President Vice Kavindele Enock has revealed that some regional presidents suggested the Zambian government drop cases against former President Edgar Lungu’s family in exchange for the repatriation of his remains.
Kavindele says the Zambian delegation achieved its mission in South Africa but was left in the dark as to why the other party pulled out at the last minute.
Commenting on remarks by former second deputy speaker of the National Assembly Mwiimba Malama, who claimed the government failed to repatriate Lungu’s remains because it sent the wrong people to negotiate with the Lungu family.
Kavindele said he was approached by regional leaders with proposals he could not act on. “These talks in South Africa were so delicate that we would be phoned by presidents around the region.
Some of them said ‘Could we drop cases against the family’. And I said, ‘Look, I don’t have those powers; in Zambia, those powers are vested in the Director of Public Prosecutions.’
My role was to facilitate the return of the remains of the former president so that he could be given a befitting send-off.
What happened between my hotel and the airport after I had succeeded, we will never know because after seven days all parties agreed.
We even agreed that President Hichilema was to be at the airport to receive the remains of President Lungu. How these things changed within 30 minutes, I don’t know,” Kavindele said.
Kavindele’s delegation led the team that had accomplished its mission until the other party abruptly changed its position.
“I’m a highly experienced peace negotiator. The team that I led was a very experienced and distinguished civil servant including former secretary to cabinet Leslie Mbula and the current Secretary to Cabinet Patrick Kangwa. And of course our Chief Mumbi sent to do the negotiations would return to Zambia on the view that we will only spend a day but we ended up being in South Africa for 10 days and our achievements were recorded and read out on both TV and radio by Kangwa.
We had gone into these very delicate discussions that took that long and we agreed that Wednesday the 18th the remains will be repatriated. And on that day we were already on our way to the airport, when we were told that the trip had to be aborted because the other party had pulled out of the plans to come back to Zambia,” he said.
“Even the South African military were already at the airport and they laid down all the formalities of sending the former head of State remains to Zambia.
So we had achieved what we were sent for and we don’t know what happened the time we were driving from our hotel to the airport.
As much as the discussions were delicate, we agreed with the other party who we know were under pressure because each time we agreed on anything, the family would say they need to consult, we don’t know who they were consulting and would change their position.
The fact that midway to the airport when everybody was ready the other party changed their position is beyond us. So we were a successful team of negotiators.” Kavindele dismissed Malama’s remarks, saying he and others criticising the delegation were not involved when it truly mattered.
“Mr Malama and others should not trivialise these discussions. They were very delicate, involved a lot of people. I’ve been in very many negotiations, but this one was very delicate.
With Mr Vernon Mwaanga, I negotiated the success of the Lusaka peace accord of Angola where President Savimbi came to Lusaka. The Americans and the Kenyans failed. I’ve been involved in other delicate negotiations such as DRC elections and many other elections in the region. You know elections always cause war in the country but we managed to negotiate.
So I could not say I’m the best but certainly we’ve been successful because I’ve been doing this sort of thing for a long time. Some of the negotiations I cannot mention because I need to seek permission from the state to disclose,” said Kavindele.
Let engage on this issue at 20:00hrs tonight.
TAYALI THE PUBLIC LAWYER OF THE PUBLI COURT OF OPINIONS!!!
Sad for mother Zambia! being taken for granted just by one selfish family and the government which can not bite.I don’t think any different family can behave like this under the rule of ECL! it was going to be a different ball game altogether.Some times I hear people say fire quenches fire, and the bible say the kingdom of God suffers violence and violence shall take it by force.
I have read what the former Vice President Enock Kavindele is saying concerning the negotiations which were made in South Africa concerning the repatriation of the remains of the 6th President, Dr Edgar Chagwa Lungu.
Some regional Leaders in their attempt to find an amicable solution might have raised the issue of the cases being faced by the family, which some view as being politically motivated. Was this the thrust of the matter? The stumbling block? That’s not true. The repatriation of ECL’s remains were not hinged on the dropping of charges against the family. Whoever is trying to put this at centre is a liar and not being sincere…. and Chilufya Tayali should tame his childish excitement. There’s nothing here.
The negotiated agreement was there in black and white, and the terms were announced in public.
Prior to 18th June, goal posts started shifting.
1. Road Works started on the Road which was the designated route for the movement of body to family home, and RDA announced it’s closure. Why was this So?
2. It was agreed that a Church requiem Mass was to be held on 23rd June, 2025 to be celebrated by the Catholic Church Lusaka Arch Bishop Dr Alick Banda.
Another Church Service which wasn’t part of the program was inserted in the program…to be managed by unknown Pastors at the Airport. This wasn’t Agreed.
3. It was agreed that the remains were to be straight away be taken to the Family home of the late President upon arrival. The government changed and inserted a detour to Mulungushi Conference Center, which wasn’t agreed.
4. The government put in a clause locking down International airport from the public, and restricted entry to the Airport for only invited people, a list which was prepared without family input.. which wasn’t as per the agreement in South Africa.
5. Regarding the Presence of President Hakainde Hichilema, there was to be reduced role as per the wish of the late President, a limited presence at the Mulungushi Conference Center for the State Funeral.. but the Remains were not going to be in his pocket. But our President wanted to be the first to see the body, and to have some not agreed church service at the airport with an unknown list of invitees.
With due respect Vice President Enock Kavindele, it wasn’t the family which abrogated the Agreement..and it’s not about the family legal cases.
Every thing in this case played out in public, and the salient points were in public.
If the remains had come to Zambia, the agreement could have been turned on its Head. I doubt if the body could even have laid in repose at the family home. There were no signs of this happening.
Hakainde and his government could have completely taken over everything…It was very clear from the Changing goal posts..The remains were to be in his pocket!
Again Zambian issues are nothing a figment of your imagination.
Lets learn to make a distinction between real issues and groping at straws.
Was the Road issue an issue to make all those announcements and cause a public spectecle?
2. What is the problem with another church service or HH recieving the body if its part of PROTOCOL? Do you and me the nuances of Protocol? Does Makebi? Or the family? A telephone call was enough to ask and any clarification could have been done.
3. What is wrong with the detour? What you forget Zambiano is that PF members wanted to recieve the body on the run way. A security concern and if you follow issues led to the dismiss for his negilence in that regard. This is aside the bigger disruptive issues that this may have caused in rest of the flights prior scheduled. Remember people flying from Lusaka maybe connecting to other distinations and this charter was inscheduled. But the point I make is that remember Patrick Kangwa admited and stated that the release of the “draft program” was in error and I would now like to connect the PF members recieving the body at the Airport as being a means for them instead to do that at Mulungushi as you allude to in your point. Is this a sign that the state was trying to be accomodating? This just proves how PF and the family has sought to Political use Lungu’s body as a means to campiagn. When they have no real message or program to win any election. Is that morally right? How degenerate.
Stop dragging HH in all this its being petty and lacking in objectivity in your point. You have belaboured his death and its become evident. Politics is not your calling. Insults have failed, berating is not working Try something else
@HaMulenga
I rarely insult, and am very objective in what I comment on..Am not a Politician, am an Author and Academic.
But above all am a Zambian, with rights as enshrined in the constitution for freedom of Expression.
I have presented what I believe led to the abrogation of the Agreement.
Regarding President Hakainde Hichilema, and his role at the funeral, it was the express wish of the family for him to have a reduced role in the funeral. Kindly note that Hakainde Hichilema is President of the Government of Zambia, made up various officials. He is not the Government. Any other person could have represented government.
If you agree and designate a route for the remains procession to the family home of ECL, then out of the blues contractors go on sight to start road Works! What message are you sending to the other party?
If you agree that the remains upon the Military Honors at the Airport will go to the family home, but you change and say they will instead go to Mulungushi Conference Center, which wasn’t part of the agreement, what message are you sending to the other party?
If you had agreed that the church service was to be at Show grounds, but you insert another Church Service, to be presided over by the President and unknown Pastors, with Invitees for which the family has no input, what message are you sending to the other Party?
If you unilaterally lock down KKIA and tell the members of Public to receive the remains on TV, when other late Presidents have been received at the Airport, and along the road from the Airport, what message are you sending to Zambians?
My friend hamulenga I Know the person we have in the MAN. He is no respecter of agreements. The agreement made in South Africa was just a useless paper for him, and as soon as the remains were in Zambia, he could have had absolute control. That’s who he is.
Just like the Kabushi and Kwacha Parliamentary Bye – Elections in which COURT ORDERS were ignored, the incidents to do with PF Illegal Conferences at Mulungushi Conference Center, the Registrar of Societies misadventures, the removal of PF from participating in Elections, the ban on wearing of PF regalia during Tonse Alliance Elections , the insistence on Bill 7 despite the CONCOURT RULING… the conduct during Michael Sata’s memorial, the Late Edith Nawakwi’s Funeral. The ‘ lock down ‘ around Hon Chishimba Kambwili’s Evacuation. In Kambwili’s case it had to take the Wife to put her foot down for Kambwili’s friends to visit him. Kambwili was to be in the MAN’s pocket, for him and him alone. To use and abuse.
So Hamulenga, I know what I talk about..am knowledgeable and objectively present my views. And if I call someone a Mingalatoon, it’s not an insult. It’s some one who practices Imingalato and confesses to this..Soon the word will be adopted by the Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary.
Similarly for a Praise Thug, Praise Idiot or Praise Fool. These are words seen in the context of unhinged praise, more like thuggery, idiocy or foolishness..a contribution to the growth of the English language from the Zambian perspective.
And am not going anywhere Hamulenga…We are very few on this platform with an alternative objective voice. Haaindigo tyrol and pafwenamwine there, surely you can tolerate us!
Foolish Zambiono Old/New Saint Bwalya: You are nothing but an excellent example of a confused, directionless and foolish PF cadre is thriving on the demise of it leader! You even call yourself a lecturer but that is just a sign that you are highly delusional and the quicker you book an appointment at Chainama the better for you and your grandmother!!
You dont even know what the word protocol means, do you?
HH was elected by millions of Zambians and it is his duty to preside over the state funeral. Why do you think you can temporarily demote him to a bystander to give comfort a bunch of plunderers with their misguided ignorant lawyer.
Your faculties are not functioning properly, and you need to increase the dosage of the medication you are taking! Eat the shit man and don’t be so uncivilized Arsewhore!
@Chilyata
A typical example of a Praise Thug, Praise Idiot and Praise Fool…all rolled into one..The Trinity of Hopelessness unleashed on Zambia.
When confronted with Truth they resort to Insults.
Zambia deserves better.
Come 2026, we revert to normalcy.
Of intellectual discourse..and a country of values .
And not this Trash we are daily subjected to.
And by God’s grace I hope to one day publish my writings…
“The Chronicles of the Mingalatoon”
“The Mingalatoon in Verse”
” The Rise and Fall of the
Mingalatoon ”
Am just a humble guy, Praise Idiot Chilyata, just armed with a Pen!
You live in your own world decency does not exist.Thieves will always have a problem with the current government.Good part is that this grouping of tribalists will be bitter for another 5yrs.Mukose bakangwalungwalu… by 20 sate 1 your bitterness will be washed
Where intent to uphold is lacking, even a trivial clause may be wielded as sufficient cause for non-performance. ECL’s family had no intentions of sending the remains. The mystery will one day come to light. There is more to this resistance than what meets the eye.
Kaponya: You are absolutely right. Edgar Lungu presided over and thrived in confusion; mercilessly looted out treasury and left our country broke without shame and didn’t care! His widow Esther Lungu is just continuing where her husband left by causing maximum confusion so that she can get to keep all the funds and resources looted from our country with the help of her wicked lawyer and toy boy, Makebi Zulu. This strategy will not work and the truth is coming our earlier than they thought. The end game is very near and chickens will soon come to roost. It is an extremely dull combination of thieves led by Esther Lungu and Makebi Zulu.
Lungu must pay Zambia back the money he and his family have stolen. Then and only then can he be buried in Zambia, until then he can rot in hospital and be buried with he snakes
Chikala
Civilians and tribalists will never get this at all.Chagwa was a chief of the Armed force and the Millitary guys should salute him in his death.Its protocol.Its done in the presence of the Current Chief of the Armed Forces President HH. Any funeral of a former Republican President, including Edgar Chagwa Lungu, is a State function, not a private family affair. The position is that access and protocol at such an event are guided by State procedures, not by personal feelings or bitterness from any widow or relative. To speculate that Esther Lungu, in her capacity as a widow , has the legal or moral right to chase away a sitting President from a State funeral is not only unconstitutional but undermines national etiquette and the dignity of public office.
Time wasters debating non issues. Our issues are electricity, economy, democracy, corruption, stolen money etc. Discuss these issues for a better Zambia. Whatever happens to the remains of the former president or where is finally buried will not resolve the above issues.