ATTACKING CATHOLIC BISHOPS
It’s unbelievable that government officials continue to engage in direct confrontations with Catholic Bishops. Every smart politician knows, globally, that the quickest way to be booted out of power is by baselessly attacking Catholic Bishops.
Before I did Giyur in Jerusalem, I worked with the Catholic Church for two decades as a development consultant for all dioceses through the then ZEC and CCJDP (now Caritas). I went to rural areas where the only government the suffering masses knew was the Catholic Church. Way before independence the Catholics provided care to natives who were segregated by the settlers.
The Bledisloe Commission of Inquiry report in 1937 revealed that it was Catholic run hospitals that provided hospital bed spaces for natives (Africans). During the same period what was termed as education for natives was also primarily provided by Catholics.
To be clear, during the struggle for independence the Catholic Bishops (non-Africans) took strong stances against white settlers in our republic. They issued very strong pro-African pastoral letters.
In the post independence era, the messages of the Catholic Bishops on issues of public interest have remained constant.
In case, the ignorant government officials are not aware, pastoral letters are not authored by Bishops. I was part of the process for issuance of pastoral letters. They originate from the grassroots through the Church’s structures of evangelism. The Catholic Church’s evangelism is entrenched in human development of the “whole person” through social services to people irrespective of religious affiliations. Thus, experts, internal (professional workers of the church) and external (consultants), transparently gather data, analyse and aggregate information to arrive at a factual conclusion. The role of Bishops is to simply confirm these facts through their plenary sessions.
It’s stupid and myopic for any foolish politician to ever imagine that Bishops speak their minds on issues – they DO NOT! To a sensible government, what Bishops bring out on issues affecting the country must be taken as A1 free intelligence for action.
If you want to know about the Catholic Church, which is not necessarily a Church, but a global and superior government, ask UNIP, MMD and PF. The current regime started by attacking Bishop Dr. Alick Banda, but now they are attacking every Bishop and priest who calls them to account. Zambia is for all! It does not belong to one group’s fathers.
Have you ever asked yourselves a question, “why is it that the Catholic Church is the only religious entity with embassies in all nations?” Political wisdom starts from the answer to this question. If you call the Catholic Global Government an ordinary “church” then you are mentally deformed.
Take this as a timely warning and focus on delivering on the promises you made. Leave the Proprietors of Dioceses (Catholic Bishops) alone. You will do well to learn and seek advice from them if you have run out of ideas to govern the Republic.
Saviour Chishimba
PATRIOT AND NATIONALIST
UPP LEADER
All the malicious, bitter, expired politician niggaz are now coming out of the forest to prophecy falsehood.
There is nothing wrong in pointing out a liar, especially if that liar is using the pulpit to advance lies. Simply because something is proclaimed from the pulpit does not make it factual.
UPND policies have transformed the lives of our most vulnerable. Who can point out the evil in free education? Where is the evil in over 100,000 jobs created in the civil service and security wings. One bitter priest who is missing brown envelopes can not undo the good that these policies are effecting.
Not so long ago praise singers heaped praise on Chishimba for merely what one might describe as temporary rubbing shoulders in a crouded mini bus headed for Kanyama.
Truly it is very stupid for anyone to think they can fight the Catholic bishops and emerge victors. The ending of such arrogance has always been constantly the same.
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Apostle Sunday Sinyangwe also used the pulpit to declare lies. Today he is very quiet.
We will continue to point out liars especially if they abuse the pulpit to deceive people.
What global government ba Chichimba.Global government today is the American government.Even the Jews can claim to rule the world now.These are not the medieval times when the Roman Catholics had secret intellignce and armed wings to fight their crusades,They also had power to crown Kings, execute heretics and forgive sinners
We are now the era of REASON and SCIENCE and democratic governance where everyone is equal before the law. Catholic priests, even in Zambia, are also subject to the law of the land.It is foolish and stupid to attempt to intimidate Zambians with the myth of Catholic omnipotence and overwhelming power over governments. Catholic priests in Zambia, are Zambians, our uncles ,brothers, nephews and grandfathers. Their research findings are not the ten commandments and therefore, can be challenged.No amount of embassy affiliation should ever separate you from your mother
My view too. And it’s not like it’s the whole Catholic noo, it’s just few Bishops because they don’t have children, they can’t feel the impact that this government has done, many of us with children we really feel the impact this government has come to our aid. Some few Bishops it’s like they had a direct link to free cash in the previous regime so when they don’t receive that cash to them it’s like the government is not working. ECL almost turned the culture of Zambians really in the opposite.
Chishimba, let us think correctly here.A lot of UPND supporters are catholic, many leaders in UPND are catholic, a lot of UPND cadres are catholic then the question is can the UPND fight itself in its own church the answer is definitely no. What are you wicked infidels thinking about. I am made to believe that our education system needs to be revisited honestly.Even the so called educated have failed to show their capacity in simple logic.We are made to divert from important issues affecting the country to church which has said nothing and has not complained of any thing.A priest is a person who is part of the community and belongs to society.If a priest’s view is not accepted by people and government then that is interpreted as fighting.If the Priest doesn’t understand the efforts the government is making then that must be viewed as a fight.We have a good number of ma dull around us.We are not safe then.The country has a lot to do and to talk about why dwell on a topic that doesn’t matter more for long.This is pulling us backwards.No wonder people danced in reverse ” dununa reverse,” very passive way of thinking.The only beauty here is that the literates are the one in exchange of unthinkable and the illiterates are cool and enjoying the development the UPND have put in place.The so called illiterates are better thinkers than the educated.The educated who want to mislead the wise lot that there is a church that is being fought are exposing their foolishness.This is like the topic of sets in mathematics, the Catholic is a universal set where all political party members are found.So how are you removing the UPND members from this grouping? You can’t.No one is fighting catholic. That notion is neither here nor there.Let us just enjoy our unity.This can be a situation where you manage to remove the UPND and replace with the stupid and useless party that will literally take us backwards we become laughingstocks in the region and abroad.UPND members are there in catholic and can’t fight their own church MWAMVELA KA. BOZA MU LEKE BANE.
No Mr. Saviour Chishimba. The Catholic Bishops are not the voters but we the Zambian people so they do not determine the voting pattern or outcome of the result. Some of the Catholic Bishops are PF cadres and misconducting themselves with impunity but times have changed. The Gonvernment is saying that, it will deal with the concerned individual and not the Catholic Church.
Is this man out of his mind? Does he mean that responding to an attack from the Catholic Bishop is attacking the Catholic Church? What kind of thinking is that? The government respects the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church should reciprocate the same respect to the UPND government for the benefit of both sides. What Saviour Chishimba should know is that politics and the Church are two different entities and besides that, the political language is quite different from the Christian language, so the best way is to stick to one but if you want to be both Christian and politician, then don’t blame anyone but yourself. No one can serve two masters at a go, you can just serve one at a go. So let the Priest choose either to be a Priest or a Politician and not both. Moreover the majority of UPND officials, party members, and party cadres are Catholics, therefore there is no way the Church can fight itself, it’s unheard of. Christ said that; a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand and a house divided against itself falls. It’s not a secret, Bishop Alick Banda hates HH more than the word and the reasons are best known by himself, but that’s in his individual capacity and not the Church. The same Saviour Chishimba cannot say that the Catholic Church hates HH just because Bishop Alick Banda hates the president. That can’t be true, because the Catholic Church love HH although individuals like Bishop Alick Banda hate him. Please let’s try to be realistic in life, responding to an attack by someone cannot be an attack to the same person person attacking you. Bishop Msipi is the one who attacked the government and the government was simply responding to that attack and that response has nothing whatsoever to do with attacking the Catholic Church. Put things right both inside and outside your mind and start thinking properly.
Collins Teembo March 6, 2025 At 2:08 pm
The world history is indeed fascinating.
Same things keep on happening over and over, but with different people.
Should I say generation after generation.
And who watches all these theatricals?
There leaved giants,
human or whatever and did what they could do.
Little man scared to the core of his bones.
The scenario changed, but was in the same format.
Here came giant-nations.
But the world still trotting either on its belly or on, no body knows.
History may appear to be unkind, but unkind for what?
Do you feel kind for the unborn, when you are tearing down nature to fill your belly?
Imwe bene Mulebatumfya.
They should respect themselves (respect is two way) just because they are Catholics they can yap anything at the pulpit instead of preaching the word of God?
Look at the Bishop Phiri video. It is unacceptable for one to stand at the pulpit with a written script about Castigating UPND and President reading for 15 minutes. Is that okay?
Pulpit is for preaching the word of God. Let them use their Catholic Bishops group to engage government. If it is an individual Priest yapping politics ku pulpit then I agree with Hon. C. Mweetwa take him as an independent NOT church.
They need political discipline.
Shouldn’t they be responsible than being mouth piece of agitators of anxiety.
Ba Saviour, we dont live in Utopia as some opposition members want to suggest. There is a concept in economics called Limiting factors. Neither is the environment linear. Its multivariate. Meaning when you make projections you make assumptions of a factor that maybe a constrain. But in the ever evolving world issues may come up to you never foresaw. Dont that make you a failure? This is the suggestion that is being made by people that not have an inkling of what they would do if they came into power how they would do better. We dont live in a perfect world.
We have read of the man that was found as skeleton. When he married his wife. Did he know that she would be swayed by some false prophet into using him to that extent, in his death? Did he know those were her peceptions of worship? If he did. Would he have married her? So Zambian we made the decision in 2021. We did so in 2016 when Sata died. Faith….is what we had and have in our leaders. In my person opinion, I would not swing too far from my decision of 2021. Why; I look at what I was promised. What out of that promise has been attained and why it has sonetimes come short. The values of those that lead me. The efforts made to stay the course in upholding those values. Not ba chiwelewele who cant even stay in one party. Whose unrealistic statements I am suppose to believe. The Catholic Church has no real basis. And lets not confuse issues. GOVERNMENT IS NOT AGAINST THE CHURCH BUT SPEAKS OUT ON ELEMENTS WITHIN THE CHURCH, who hide behind the “cloth” and use the Pulpit to spread lies. In the 2000 years since Christ died, have the Catholic preached and saved everyone? So even those that think they are so selfrightous do some soul searching about why they are still standing up and preaching, that which is not even a message of salvation but speaking down to fellow men, like they are God.
Mind you catholic is just a Church like any other so they should behave as one,they should and must not pretend as though they are government on their own.be reminded that we have not only a catholic people in Zambia but also many others who may not and don’t agree with the catholic.so mr.chishimba if you are catholic ,I am not and maybe your neighborhood is not as well.so catholic will never at any time dictate how we vote and change government in Zambia.