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“ZAMBIA IS NOT THE POST NEWSPAPER – M’MEMBE HAS NO MORAL GROUND TO ADVISE HH”

“ZAMBIA IS NOT THE POST NEWSPAPER – M’MEMBE HAS NO MORAL GROUND TO ADVISE HH”



RE: Official Response by UPND Media Director, Mark Simuuwe to Misguided Statement by Dr. Fred M’membe – “Zambia Twasebana”



We have noted with disappointment the unprovoked and emotionally charged statement issued by Dr. Fred M’membe, President of the Socialist Party, in which he attempts to paint a distorted and pessimistic picture of President Hakainde Hichilema and the UPND administration.



Let us be clear: Dr. M’membe is the wrong person to advise President Hichilema. His political commentary is not guided by principle or patriotism, but by frustration over his failed political journey and the inevitable decline of the Socialist Party, a party that has failed to inspire confidence, unity, or relevance among Zambians.



From the time President Hichilema took over the leadership of the UPND, the party has grown from strength to strength, earning support across all provinces and uniting Zambians under a message of economic transformation, peace, and good governance.



Under his leadership, UPND moved from being unfairly branded as a regional party to a truly national political force. The 2021 general election results, especially in regions like Northern Province where President Hichilema secured 51% of the vote compared to former President Edgar Lungu’s 49%, are a clear testament to this national growth and appeal.



Meanwhile, Dr. M’membe has never even managed to secure a third or fourth place in any general election. Instead of reflecting on the rejection of his party’s rigid, outdated socialist ideology, he seeks to scapegoat President Hichilema. This is not only disingenuous but desperate.


Dr. M’membe must now face the political reality: Zambians have moved on. The Socialist Party is steadily losing membership and support. The people have seen through the empty rhetoric and ideological rigidity. The party is not a growing force, it is on the path to extinction. It is, therefore, disingenuous for someone who cannot even build consensus within his own political group to attempt to lecture a democratically elected leader.


In fact, Dr. M’membe does not believe in collaboration, no wonder he has failed to fit and associate with the Tonse Alliance, and he equally disdains the UKA alliance. His intolerance and abrasive posture are the very reasons why no alliance or political grouping can accommodate him. He must be reminded: Zambia is not The Post Newspaper where he could impose his views without question. Governance in the real world requires inclusion, responsibility, and results, not editorial grandstanding.



President Hichilema’s focus remains on delivering development, economic revival, and good governance. We are accountable to the people, not to failed political actors whose only relevance now comes from issuing press statements filled with emotion and falsehoods.



Dr. M’membe should prepare to test his popularity in 2026, and we wish him all the best. But until then, we urge him to speak with responsibility and most importantly, with truth.

God bless Zambia.

Mark Simuuwe
UPND Media Director

HICHILEMA MISSES ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT

HICHILEMA MISSES ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT

By Counsel Arnold Chisaya

I have over 8 years of experience in crisis communication, and here is what I will tell you: In a crisis, the time you take to walk to a bus stop to speak with protesting old men is more valuable than the first word you will utter when you get there!



What do I mean? Presence is gold in a crisis, so seeing the President choose to record his speech is disappointing.

It shows that he does not consider the current situation a matter of national importance.


Instead of walking into the ZNBC Today studio and speak on live TV from there, he decided to record his speech from an empty room at the so-called community house!



That is a shame, especially that he had all the time to drive to Choma, using government resources, to sell his skinny bulls a few days ago!



Today, President HH was let down by his team. Or did they?
So the reason his address wasn’t held at 19:00 as they had announced is that the editors at ZNBC were still cutting the speech. Wow!


He had an opportunity to show leadership, but he just showed the lack of it.

Another missed opportunity!

Political Leadership and National Mourning, Understanding President Hakainde Hichilema’s Role

Political Leadership and National Mourning, Understanding President Hakainde Hichilema’s Role

By : Tobbius Chilembo Hamunkoyo 12/06/2025

There’s an English proverb that says, “Give someone enough rope, and they will hang themselves.” In politics, this often means that the way leaders act whether wisely or carelessly, can have lasting consequences for their legacy.



Some observers believe that President Hakainde Hichilema is experiencing this principle in how he has managed the mourning period following the death of former President Edgar Chagwa Lungu.



As the nation mourns this great loss, one of the prominent figures assisting the Lungu family is Senior Counsel Makebi Zulu, who is also the family spokes Person. It appears he is playing a key role in guiding the family through this emotional time. Makebi Zulu, who studied Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) as part of his LLB degree, should know that such a delicate matter requires maturity, caution, and wisdom.



Any public claims, such as the idea that President Lungu did not want President Hichilema near his funeral—should be backed by clear evidence. If such a statement was truly made, it should have been handled privately, not used in a way that paints the late President Lungu in a negative light for political gain.


Ironically, this same group once condemned Thabo Kawana for publicly revealing that ECL was undergoing chemotherapy in South Africa. At the time, they insisted the former president was only there for regular checkups. It is moments like these that call for wise counsel.


Makebi Zulu appears to be acting emotionally, but this situation requires calm and careful speech, knowing what to say and what to keep private.

His role is not just legal, it is deeply connected to the Lungu family’s relationship with the state and with the public. He must remember that there is life after the funeral. How he handles this moment reflects not only on the family but also on Zambia’s image in the eyes of the world.



While his legal support is important, wisdom must guide his words and actions, and the advice he receives from others must also be thoughtful and responsible.

The way this mourning period is handled will shape how both the Lungu family and the nation’s leadership are remembered.



It is important for the Lungu family—and indeed for all Zambians, to recognize that President Hakainde Hichilema, as the current Head of State, is also the chief mourner of the nation.



This role goes beyond personal relationships or past political disagreements. Regardless of their past differences, President Hichilema has a national duty to lead the country in mourning with unity, respect, and dignity.



History has shown that the death of a former president can be a powerful moment of national unity. Countries around the world have used such moments to set aside political divides and come together to honor a shared legacy.



Zambia has experienced this before. These moments remind us that true leadership rises above personal feelings and aims to preserve peace, dignity, and national unity. That is why Makebi Zulu and the Lungu family must approach this situation with care and responsibility.



This is a time for wise decisions. Blame should not be directed at the state. Issues like the withdrawal of benefits were voluntary decisions made by former President Lungu himself, as provided for under the law. It has nothing to do with President Hichilema or the UPND.



How President Hichilema guides the nation through this period of mourning will influence how history remembers him. Similarly, how the Lungu family conducts itself will reflect their respect for the presidency, for President Hichilema, and, most importantly, for Zambia.



As the country reflects on this moment of transition, the need for national unity cannot be overstated.



History teaches us that in times of grief, a nation grows stronger when its people come together in purpose and peace.

We now await the official address from His Excellency President Hakainde Hichilema.

KABWE DISTRICT WELCOMES INTERNATIONAL DRUG COMPANY’S EXPANSION, PROMISING 250 NEW JOBS

KABWE DISTRICT WELCOMES INTERNATIONAL DRUG COMPANY’S EXPANSION, PROMISING 250 NEW JOBS



Kabwe District is set to benefit from significant economic growth as the International Drug Company embarks on an ambitious expansion program that will create 250 direct jobs for local residents.



Kabwe District Commissioner Mr. Lennox Shimwambwa expressed his enthusiasm during a recent site tour, highlighting the establishment of two traditional manufacturing plants dedicated to producing antibiotic capsules and other essential medicines.



Commissioner Shimwambwa has praised the initiative, noting its positive impact on employment and health care in the region. He emphasised the importance of partnerships between the government and private sector players in enhancing the health sector, a commitment shared by His Excellency, President Hakainde Hichilema.



As Kabwe prepares for this development, the collaboration aims to boost local industries and improve access to vital medical products for the community.

UPND MT

TANZANIA-ZAMBIA INTER-CONNECTOR CONTRACTOR SELECTION UNDERWAY

TANZANIA-ZAMBIA INTER-CONNECTOR CONTRACTOR SELECTION UNDERWAY

Government is finalising the selection of a contractor to undertake the construction of the Tanzania -Zambia inter-connector.



The inter-connector will enable the exchange of electricity between Zambia and Tanzania.

Speaking in the National Assembly when he issued a Ministerial Statement, Energy Minister MAKOZO CHIKOTE said funds for the project have already been committed and evaluation is in progress.



Mr. CHIKOTE also disclosed that the country is currently generating over 1,800 mega watts against the average national demand of 2,400.

He said this leaves the country with a power deficit of 594 mega watts.



Mr. CHIKOTE however said that the country is currently importing an average of 200 Mega watts of power from Southern African Power Pool, to support domestic generation and exporting 190 mega watts under existing agreements.



He further disclosed that ZESCO between January and March this year lost 31 million kwacha due to vandalism which he said has further contributed to prolonged electricity outages in affected areas.

ZNBC

A Morning of Disappointment and Legal Clarity, Amb Mukwita Must Not Mislead The Public

A Morning of Disappointment and Legal Clarity, Amb Mukwita Must Not Mislead The Public.

By ; Tobbius Chilembo Hamunkoyo;
LLB, Author, Scientist, Political and Governance activist
13/06/25



It was 4:30 hours this morning, a time when Zambia is still wrapped in the calm of dawn, yet my mind was anything but at peace.



With the quiet hum of my phone illuminating the darkness, I reached for it instinctively, eager to catch up on the latest developments on social media. Little did I know, this morning’s discovery would send a wave of disappointment coursing through me.



As I scrolled through news updates, my eyes landed on an article penned by Ambassador Anthony Mukwita. Intrigued, I began reading, absorbing each statement until I stumbled upon a particular assertion that left me shaken.


Mukwita suggested that President Hakainde Hichilema in his address to the nation yesterday, should have gone further by apologizing for withdrawing benefits from former President Edgar Chagwa Lungu. And in that moment, something inside me shifted, disappointment, frustration, and a profound sense of disbelief.



My hands trembled with the weight of my emotions. That unmistakable sensation of betrayal settled deep within, and I could no longer ignore the glaring reality—Mukwita was playing politics. Surely, the law is clear, straightforward, and does not bow to sentiment.



Former President Lungu, once advised by concerned Zambians to retire and focus on his post-political life, initially accepted that reality. No one disputed his contributions to Zambia’s development, nor his position as a former head of state.



Yet, the story takes a twist. While some citizens urged him to embrace retirement, others whispered the call of a return to the political stage.

Lungu made his decision—he officially resigned from active politics, informing the secretary to the cabinet of his choice. Following this, he was granted his benefits, enjoying them without resistance, just as stipulated by law.



However, there is an undeniable truth within that same legal framework, once a former president reenters active politics, those benefits cease.

This is explicitly stated in Section 5 of the Benefits of Former Presidents Act , which outlines the circumstances under which benefits are not payable.



The law states that a former president shall not receive pension or benefits if they are engaged in active politics or receiving a salary from the government.

The Act further defines “active politics” as any act indicating an intention to hold elective or appointive office, or the actual holding of such an office in a political party or organization .


This very law applied to the late President Kenneth Kaunda between 1994 to 1996,  when he stepped back into the political arena, and it was enforced upon former President Frederick Titus Jacob Chiluba as well. The precedent is strong and undeniable.



And so, when Mukwita framed the situation as though President Hichilema had personally withdrawn Lungu’s benefits, the argument crumbled beneath scrutiny. It was not President Hakainde Hichilema. It was not a political vendetta. It was the law, a law that has remained consistent over the years.



Zambians must understand how the law functions. It is not about individuals or their personal decisions; it is about governance, order, and precedent.

Ambassador Mukwita must acknowledge this truth rather than attempting to sway public perception with misplaced narratives.



As I set my phone down, a thought lingered, In a time when misinformation is easily spread, the responsibility to seek truth has never been greater.

Mindset Must Change

WHERE DID WE GO WRONG?

EDITOR’S CHOICE: WHERE DID WE GO WRONG?

By Gregory Mofu

Growing up in the 1990s, I witnessed Zambia stand tall as a beacon of peace—not just in the region, but across the African continent. Under the leadership of our then-president, Frederick Chiluba, Zambia played a central role in promoting dialogue, mediating conflicts, and hosting peace negotiations that shaped the course of nations.



Zambia was not just known as a peaceful country; it was the headquarters of peace in southern Africa. We watched with pride as our capital, Lusaka, hosted landmark agreements like the Lusaka Protocol, which brought together Angolan President Eduardo dos Santos and UNITA rebel leader Jonas Savimbi in a bid to end the protracted civil war in Angola. We also witnessed Congo’s newly installed president, Dr. Laurent-Désiré Kabila, sign peace accords with over 18 rebel groups—right here in Lusaka. These moments were not mere political events; they were affirmations of Zambia’s identity as a stabilizing force and an honest broker in times of crisis.



But something has changed.

Today, the story feels different. The confusion and political friction surrounding the funeral of our sixth Republican President, Dr. Edgar Chagwa Lungu, have left many wondering: Where did we go wrong?



I believe I have an answer—politics.

Politics have become divisive, toxic, and misunderstood. Somewhere along the way, we lost sight of the true spirit of democracy. Instead of embracing diversity of thought and opposition as pillars of a healthy system, we have allowed suspicion, bitterness, and mistrust to define our political interactions. Democracy was never meant to create enemies; it was meant to create space for conversation, accountability, and growth.



That’s why I was deeply encouraged by President Hakainde Hichilema’s recent address to the nation. His reminder that politics should not turn us into enemies is a necessary and timely message. It is a step in the right direction—and hopefully, a turning point.


When this moment of political tension and misunderstanding eventually passes—and it must—we must not return to business as usual. Instead, I strongly believe that President Hichilema should initiate a Commission on Peace, Reconciliation, and National Unity. Such a platform could allow Zambia to revisit its founding values, heal political wounds, foster mutual respect among stakeholders, and restore our nation’s rightful place as a beacon of peace in Africa.

We have done it before. We can do it again.

IDF RELEASES CHART OF TARGETED IRANIAN MILITARY FIGURES

BREAKING: IDF RELEASES CHART OF TARGETED IRANIAN MILITARY FIGURES


The Israeli military has published a detailed chart in Hebrew outlining the top Iranian security and military leaders reportedly eliminated in last night’s strikes.


The list includes senior IRGC figures, key defense commanders, and leaders tied to Iran’s nuclear and missile programs.



Names appearing include Hossein Salami, IRGC Commander-in-Chief; Gholam Ali Rashid, head of Khatam al-Anbiya; and several high-ranking Air Force, Navy, and Quds Force officials.

Vishwashkumar Ramesh: HOW DID HE SURVIVE, HAND OF GOD OR SCIENCE

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HOW DID HE SURVIVE: HAND OF GOD OR SCIENCE
Vishwashkumar Ramesh,40, is the sole survivor from the Air India 787 jetliner plane that crashed in Ahmedabad, India killing 241 others.

After the crash and big plume of smoke at the scene, onlookers were shocked to see a man walking out from the ruble with minor injuries and photos of him walking were taken immediately.

The question now with everyone is how did he survive. He said he jumped out of the plane when he saw tragedy unfolding before his eyes as the plane started going down. It’s something that has left everyone puzzled and questions are rising.

He was seated on seat 11A which is near the exit door, but why did anyone else close to him not survive? Did he open the exit door, and if he did, did he do it to jump out because of his explanation or it could actually be the cause for the plane coming down.

Was it just the hand of God that saved him but science enthusiasts want science to win so they won’t take that up.

Investigations on the cause of the crash have just started and many people are eager to know through those investigations just how Vishwashkumar survived.

IRAN LAUNCHES OVER 100 DRONES TOWARD ISRAEL

BREAKING: IRAN LAUNCHES OVER 100 DRONES TOWARD ISRAEL


The Israel Defense Force reports that Iran has launched more than 100 drones toward Israeli territory in the past hour.



Israeli officials say the drones could take up to seven hours to cross Iraq, Syria, and Jordan before reaching Israel, and interception efforts are currently underway to prevent them from arriving.

THIS IS ONE THE FAMILIES THAT HAS PERISHED IN THE AIR INDIA CRASH

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THIS IS ONE THE FAMILIES THAT HAS PERISHED IN THE AIR INDIA CRASH



Pratik Joshi had been living in London for the past six years. A software professional, he had long dreamed of building a better future abroad for his wife and their three young children, who were staying back in India.



After years of planning, paperwork, and patience, that dream was finally coming true. Just two days ago, his wife, Dr. Komi Vyas, a medical professional, resigned from her job in India. The bags were packed, the goodbyes said, the future waiting.



This morning, all five of them, filled with hope, excitement, and plans, boarded Air India flight 171 to London. Clicked this selfie, sent it to relatives. A one-way journey to begin a new life.



But they never made it. The plane crashed. None of them survived.



In a matter of moments, a lifetime of dreams turned to ash. A brutal reminder, life is terrifyingly fragile. Everything you build, everything you hope for, everything you love, it all hangs by a thread. So while you can, live, love, and don’t wait for happiness to start tomorrow.

PROTESTS IN NAIROBI ERUPT AS AUTOPSY REVEALS BLOGGER DIED DUE TO ASSAULT IN POLICE CUSTODY

PROTESTS IN NAIROBI ERUPT AS AUTOPSY REVEALS BLOGGER DIED DUE TO ASSAULT IN POLICE CUSTODY



PROTESTS erupted in Nairobi on Monday and Tuesday over the death of Kenyan blogger Albert Ojwang, who was found dead after being in custody at the location on Sunday.



According to the police, he injured himself by banging his head against the wall in his cell.

However, an autopsy conducted on Tuesday indicated that Ojwang was strangled in police custody.


According to government pathologist Dr. Bernard Midia, Ojwang sustained multiple injuries consistent with assault, not self-harm.

Ojwang was arrested on Friday in Homa Bay, western Kenya and driven 400km to the capital, Nairobi, said fellow activists during a news conference outside the Nairobi Funeral Home, where they came to pay their respects to the family.



The group says his post about the deputy police chief Eliud Lagat on X was the reason for his arrest.



Kenya Police said that the Independent Policing Oversight Authority  had launched an investigation into the incident.

M&D

VIDEO: PRESIDENT HAKAINDE HICHILEMA’s ADDRESS TO THE NATION

HH CALLS FOR UNITY

By Rosemary Shindola

Lusaka-12 June 2025

President Hakainde Hichilema has addressed the nation in a solemn and heartfelt message following the passing of former President Edgar Chagwa Lungu.



In his national address, the Head of State expressed deep condolences to the bereaved Lungu family, the Patriotic Front (PF) party, and the Zambian people at large.



In a spirit of national solidarity, the Republican President called on Zambians to support the Lungu family and the PF party with compassion and empathy, emphasizing the importance of rising above political divisions.



“My thoughts and prayers remain with the bereaved family and the nation at large during this difficult time,” President Hichilema stated, urging all citizens to embrace peace, love, and unity.



“Political differences do not make us enemies. They reflect our vibrant and dynamic democracy,” he added.



The Head of State appealed to all political parties, including the United Party for National Development (UPND), to rise to the occasion with dignity and mutual respect.



He cautioned against any attempts to politicize the moment or fuel divisions for partisan gain.

“Let compassion guide our actions. Let us not be drawn into provocation or disorder. This is a time to show our shared humanity.”



Highlighting Zambia’s identity as a Christian nation, President Hichilema stressed that lawlessness and disorder have no place in society. He reaffirmed that the country is governed by the rule of law, and any violations would be addressed without fear or favor.


“We are a nation of laws. The law will prevail and be applied fairly to all.”

Calling on the nation to turn to prayer and faith, he encouraged Zambians to seek divine wisdom and guidance in this moment of grief.



“Let love lead us and unity bind us. We must now come together in the spirit of peace and reconciliation.”

President Hichilema concluded his address by reaffirming his commitment to serve all citizens, regardless of political affiliation, ethnicity, or background.


“As President, it is my duty to serve every Zambian. This is the time to put aside our differences and work together as one nation.”



The President’s message has been widely interpreted as a call for national healing and cohesion, as the country prepares to bid farewell to one of its former leaders.

CIC PRESS TEAM

WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHERE AND HOW PRESIDENT EDGAR LUNGU SHOULD BE BURIED…IS IT GOVERNMENT OR HIS FAMILY?- Antonio Mourinho Mwanza

Mr Antonio Mwanza  wrote
WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHERE AND HOW PRESIDENT EDGAR LUNGU SHOULD BE BURIED…IS IT GOVERNMENT OR HIS FAMILY?


In Zambia, there is NO law that explicitly mandates a state funeral or prescribes a burial process for former Presidents. However, state practice and certain government regulations have guided how former Heads of State are treated upon death.



Here’s a breakdown:



✅ 1. State Practice and Precedent
• Zambia has traditionally accorded state funerals to all deceased Presidents, both sitting and former.


• Former Presidents Levy Mwanawasa, Frederick Chiluba, Michael Sata, Rupiah Banda and Kenneth Kaunda were all given state funerals.


• These funerals involved:
• Lying in state
• National mourning (public holidays, flags at half-mast)
• Military honors
• Burial at Presidential Burial Site (Embassy Park) in Lusaka.



✅ 2. Government Protocols and Decisions
• Though not enshrined in a single statutory law, the Office of the President (Cabinet Office) has protocols for national mourning and burial of sitting or former Presidents.


• These are administrative and policy-based decisions rather than laws passed by Parliament.


• The Presidential Burial Site Act, 2008 (Cap 264 of the Laws of Zambia) governs the Embassy Park burial site but does not mandate burial there—it authorizes the government to bury presidents there if the state so decides.




✅ 3. Presidential Burial Site Act, 2008 (Cap 264)
• Section 3: The Minister may designate land as a Presidential burial site.
• Section 4: The President (or a person acting on their behalf) may approve burial of a deceased President at the site.
• No clause in the Act compels burial at this site or a state funeral.


• Consent of family is typically sought but not legally binding—this was at the center of the Kaunda family dispute in 2021.



✅ 4. Constitution of Zambia (Amendment) Act, 2016
• The Constitution recognizes former Presidents and provides retirement benefits (Article 112), but it does not address burial or funerals.



MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS AND CONCLUSIONS

The State must continue to seek a common ground with the bereaved family and in the interest of national unity and posterity of our country resolve this impasse amicably.



I am of the considered view that the State must engage neutral arbiters such as the Church and Traditional Leaders to help resolve this matter.



In conclusion, I am calling upon all parties involved to seek wisdom, understanding, tolerance and respect for one another in order to maintain peace and unity.



May we continue to mourn our beloved late President in honour and peace.

Antonio Mourinho Mwanza

12 June 2025

Equating the funeral and burial of  Lungu to the actions of  Hichilema and UPND is FAILING the entire Nation- Silavwe Jackson

In mourning our dearly departed 6th Republican President, H.E Edgar Chagwa Lungu, let us be REALISTIC in our demands.



President Lungu’s death was a shock and the pain is justified especially that his accessing of treatment was politically weaponised.



Equating the funeral and burial of President Lungu to the actions of President Hichilema and UPND is FAILING the entire Nation.


President Lungu cannot be buried in a common private manner, we have precedent on Presidents Kaunda and Mwanawasa.



President Lungu’s Family and Government, in the presence of NEUTRAL ELDERS must continue to engage and reach consensus.



The SOUL AND CONSCIOUS of our nation must not be sacrificed because of the injustices of President HH and UPND. ECL wouldn’t want that.



Silavwe Jackson
President
GPZ
12|06|2025

EFZ counsels Government, ECL family to expeditiously arrive at an amicable decision

EFZ counsels Government, ECL family to expeditiously arrive at an amicable decision



Lusaka, June, 12 – We have followed developments of a standoff between the Government and family of the late sixth Republican President Mr. Edgar Chagwa Lungu regarding plans to repatriate his remains with great concern.



We are compelled by the moral authority of the Church to call for calm and advise both parties to expeditiously arrive at a unifying decision that is in the interest of national peace.



While we acknowledge that by tradition, the family is the legal custodian of the deceased’s body and all cultural rites, we appeal for dialogue that respects and allows the State to play the symbolic honour that is due to a departed former Head of State.



As many have said, there is no constitutional or statutory provision overriding the family’s authority on funeral arrangements for any former Head of State.



However, in the spirit of co-existence, the Government should play a facilitatory role to honour wishes of the family while according the late former Head of State his deserved military honours.



Members of the public may wish to know that the State has legitimate public interest to honour a former Head of State as his leadership and legacy is part of Zambia’s national history and identity.



Therefore, parties should remember that the citizens must be given an opportunity to participate in collective mourning of a man they called their President for 7 years.



Both the family and the Government have an inescapable duty to honour the memories of our departed leader by doing everything possibe to promote and preserve national unity during this difficult moment of national mourning.



Issued by:
Bishop Andrew Mwenda
Executive Director
Evangelical Fellowship of Zambia

FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER HAIMBE RESPONDS TO FAMILY’S PRIVATE FUNERAL REQUEST: “THE LATE PRESIDENT BELONGED TO ALL ZAMBIANS”

FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER HAIMBE RESPONDS TO FAMILY’S PRIVATE FUNERAL REQUEST: “THE LATE PRESIDENT BELONGED TO ALL ZAMBIANS”



By Dennis Sikazwe Jr

Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation Minister Mulambo Haimbe has weighed in on the decision by the family of the late former President to hold a private funeral, following a reported failure to reach consensus with the government. Minister Haimbe emphasized that while the family’s wishes are important, the late leader served as a national figure who belonged to all Zambians.



Speaking to the media, Minister Haimbe said the passing of a former Head of State is not a matter limited to family circles alone but a moment of national reflection and unity.



“You might put forward his wishes and requests, but I think this matter is for all of us as a people – as Zambians – because the late former president represented all of us,” said Haimbe.



“The person representing us now, in life, is the current President. But we must not forget that former presidents occupy a special place in our history. Their passing is not only personal to their family, but deeply significant to the nation.”



Minister Haimbe acknowledged that the bereaved family is entitled to its own views and preferences, including those regarding funeral arrangements. However, he called for a balanced approach that honors the private wishes of the family while upholding the dignity of national mourning.



“We must respect and appreciate the family’s position. At the same time, we as Zambians are also stakeholders. The former president was a leader for all of us,” he said.



The Minister concluded by urging the nation to remain united and to work together toward a dignified and befitting send-off for the late statesman.



> “I’m sure all of us would want to see a funeral that reflects the respect and honour due to a former president. That is what we must work toward achieving together.”



The government has yet to announce the final funeral program. Meanwhile, discussions are ongoing in hopes of reconciling the family’s preferences with national expectations.

CIC PRESS TEAM

UNSEEN WORKS OF PRESIDENT LUNGU- Likando Kalaluka, SC

UNSEEN WORKS OF PRESIDENT LUNGU

By Likando Kalaluka, SC

First and foremost, allow me to convey my heartfelt condolences to the widow, Madam Esther Lungu, to President Lungu’s children, and indeed to all Zambians (everyone included), as we mourn the passing of our former President—a statesman, a servant leader, and a humble soul.   



My earliest memories of Mr. Edgar Chagwa Lungu—whom I respectfully addressed as such at the time—are from my days at the University of Zambia and later at ZIALE, when I would hear his name mentioned occasionally. However, my first real interaction with him was in or around 2001, shortly after I was admitted to the Bar. Around the same time, I had also been elected as a Council Member of the Law Association of Zambia (LAZ). The policy then (and likely still now) required each Council Member to convene or chair one of the sub-committees. I chose to lead the Legal Aid Committee.



Mr. Lungu was by far the most committed member of that committee. He attended every meeting—without fail—and joined us for outreach programs in communities like Matero and John Laing, where we offered pro bono legal services. Despite being more than two decades my senior in both age and legal experience, Mr. Lungu would always take the time—before our meetings—to advise me privately on what to say and how to proceed. Then, he would take a back seat and let me lead. That humility left a lasting impression on me. I was a young, inexperienced lawyer, yet he served under my leadership with such grace and respect. Through that quiet mentorship, I learned one of the most important virtues of leadership—humility. For that, I remain eternally grateful.



Thereafter I took a break from LAZ Council, and I lost contact with him. In or around 2013, we met at the Radisson Blu hotel in Lusaka. By that time, he was serving as Minister of Home Affairs. With his signature smile, he handed me his business card and said ‘Ba lawyer, you no longer have an excuse for not reaching out or contacting me’. While many become incommunicado after ascending to higher offices, Honourable Lungu made it a point to remain accessible. Indeed, he never disappointed. Whenever I called him, as he answered every call and took time to listen to whatever I had to say. He took keen interest in what was happening in my life and in my law practice. He gave counsel with warmth and humour. Remarkably, this openness did not change even when he became President of the Republic. He continued to consult widely, listening to technocrats and experts from various government and quasi-government institutions. It was like he was oblivious to the authority and power reposed in the office he held—choosing instead to lead with humility and wisdom, ensuring that every decision was well-informed and people-focused.



When he appointed me Attorney General at the age of 37—possibly the youngest AG in our history—I was overwhelmed by the weight of responsibility. But President Lungu reassured me: “Do your best. I know you’ll make it.” Those simple words steadied me through my tenure as AG. Though I am constrained by my oath under the Official Oaths Act and cannot share many details, I can confidently say that I enjoyed an excellent working relationship with him—marked by mutual respect, trust, and integrity.



Among President Lungu’s many accomplishments, the 2016 Constitutional Amendments stand out prominently. Up until 2016, Zambians had long aspired for key constitutional reforms – among them;



i. 50% + 1 threshold for election of Republican President;
ii. Presidential Running Mate;
iii. Constitutional Court, and;
iv. An enhanced and modernised Bill of Rights.


These aspirations were well-documented in the Constitutional Review Commission Reports and other Technical Committee reports, but somehow the successive governments always came up with a different ‘colored’ paper and would not implement them. President Lungu stood tall and broke that cycle. He listened to the people’s voice and led the process that saw these long-awaited amendments relating to the 50% + 1 threshold for election of the Republican President, Presidential Running Mate and also the establishment of the Constitutional Court.


Constitutional law experts all agree that these were no ordinary accomplishments.

In a bold move, he also championed the 2016 referendum to amend the archaic Bill of Rights. His goal was clear, to enhance human rights protection for all Zambians and also, to expand this protection by expressly entrenching human rights protection for persons with disabilities and other marginalized people in our society. However, politics chipped in and, while others questioned the holding of the referendum at the same time as the 2016 general elections, President Lungu remained focused and had his sight on the overall objective of improving the human rights landscape in Zambia. Unfortunately, and sadly so, the referendum failed to meet the Article 79 threshold and President Lungu’s dream of enhancing and improving the human rights landscape in Zambia, did not materialise. His effort however, marked a profound moment in Zambia’s human rights journey. Many human rights defenders view that missed opportunity as a national loss—but never for want of resolve on the part of President Lungu.



A lot of Zambians will remember President Lungu as the President who tried his best. 

Zambians will remember President Lungu as a leader who gave his all. His tenure witnessed remarkable infrastructure development across the country and steadfast leadership during the COVID-19 pandemic—a time that tested governments worldwide. Amid severe disruptions, a battered economy, and one of the worst droughts in our history which resulted in near crop failure, President Lungu made tough decisions with grace. Zambia emerged with fewer losses than many countries, a testament to his calm and courageous leadership.



Despite these and numerous other achievements, it is possible that some among us, may not appreciate the enormity of President Lungu’s leadership and accomplishments. On his part, President Lungu was undeterred by the apparent lack of appreciation from some quarters. On 22nd April 2018, in his celebrated and elegant handwriting, he penned these profound words:



“When you work for God, don’t worry whether your work is being seen or heard, as long as the Lord Himself sees. Some people are blind, others are deaf. But the Lord in his own time makes the ‘blind’ see your work, the ‘deaf’ hear of your works!’



He wrote these words while he was still President but it’s like he wrote them for us today, and for the future. They are a call to reflection—a reminder to see, to hear, and to honour the legacy of a man who served with humility, dignity, and unwavering dedication to the people of Zambia. I pray that God opens our eyes to see President Lungu’s works.



MAY THE SOUL OF HIS EXCELLENCY, DR. EDGAR CHAGWA LUNGU REST IN ETERNAL PEACE

Lunte MP Mutotwe Kafwaya Pays Emotional Tribute to Late President Edgar Chagwa Lungu

Lunte MP Mutotwe Kafwaya Pays Emotional Tribute to Late President Edgar Chagwa Lungu



Lusaka, Zambia – June 12, 2025

Lunte Member of Parliament Mutotwe Kafwaya today paid his final respects to former President Edgar Chagwa Lungu, visiting the Patriotic Front Secretariat in Lusaka to sign the official book of condolences.



In a deeply personal and emotional message, Kafwaya wrote:

“President Lungu,
You are my hero.
You gave me political life.
You believed in me.
You changed our country.
You changed our district.


You gave us a new name.
You will forever be in our hearts.
We reman your children.
We shall aways be guided by your enduring mentorship.”



Speaking to journalists after signing the book, Kafwaya described President Lungu as a father figure and mentor whose legacy would never fade.



“President Lungu was not just a national leader he was a personal inspiration. He raised many of us. He believed in people like me before the world even knew our names,” Kafwaya said.



The atmosphere at the PF Secretariat was sombre, as mourners from all walks of life came to honour the late president, who led Zambia from 2015 to 2021, is remembered for his calm leadership, humility, and commitment to peace and national unity.



“He gave us identity. He gave Lunte a voice. His mentorship lives in everything we do,” Kafwaya added.



President Lungu’s passing has left a deep wound in the hearts of many, but his spirit, Kafwaya said, will continue to guide those who remain.


“His dream lives on in us,” he concluded. “We will carry the torch.”

Meet Joshua Maponga III, the Pan-Africanist from Zimbabwe  who has now discovered Europe.

Meet Joshua Maponga III, the Pan-Africanist from Zimbabwe who has now discovered Europe.



“Just like European Explorers discovered Africa while people were already living there ,the living Ancestor Joshua Maponga III have now discovered Europe “ –Documented in history book of “Farmers of Thoughts ”.



Maponga has now given Britain 🇬🇧 new names ,as follows:

1.England : it’s now called PAMBEPFUMI ( meaning Tomb raiders,Plunderers of wealth)
2.London: RUNDONDA ( House of the weaklings)


3.Manchester : KUMAGABA ( Home of noisy tins)
4.Birmingham: Berejena( white hyenas)
5.Cambridge: Ngomahuru( House of noisy drums/Den of madness)
6.Oxford: Misodzi yaFureka( Tears of Africa)


7.English Language: Chirungurira( Teeth on the edge)
8.Prince William: Dangarembwa Nyamadzavo( Their dog kennel heir)
9.Cellphone: Pontonjere( the Tin of intelligence)


10.Buckingham Palace : Makuvastsine ( Gatherers of spiky Grass)
11.Glastonbury site: Zulu of Bulawayo
12.Europe : VEROPA


13.Amsterdam : Varombi
Note that his voyage in Europe still continues and his main goal is to Reveal, Rename ,and Restore by rewriting the history books about Africa .



#JoshuaMapongaIII #FarmersofThoughts #Africa #Zimbabwe #Europe #Explorer

Allow the family to mourn Edgar Lungu- Chishala Chilufya

Allow the family to mourn Edgar Lungu.
(CHITSILU CHILI NDI MWINIWAKE)

By Chishala Chilufya (political and social analysis )

The only thing we can do as a country is to be honest and sincere. If the truth cannot be spoken no healing for this country and the issue at hand is not about the benefits for the late former president Lungu.



Because when everyone is trying to reason on this funeral the issue of benefits  is coming out from the UPND supporters and their sympathizers.



The issue here is not about the benefits of the former president. We know what the law says on the benefits of the former presidents in article five.

Please I want to repeat this again, no one is interested in the benefits for ECL.



We are a Christian nation, the Bible tells us in the book of John “say the truth and the truth shall set you free”.
God likes sinners not pretenders or hypocrites, because the sinner one day is going to repent, but those who are pretenders will never change.


In this country we like sweeping the truth under the carpet this is the time we need to change that attitude.



The question is?

In 2015 did the late president Lungu have a health problem.

The answer is yes.

Was he going for medical check-ups?



The answer is yes.

Going for his routine medical check-up  was this his constitution right?

The answer is yes.

When he informed the government that he wanted to go for a medical review was this his constitutional right?



The answer is yes?

Why did the government refuse to Grant him permission to go for his medical review?

Was the government using the constitutional provision to stop him not to go for his medical check-up.

The answer is no?

How did the late former president leave the country was it normal or, it was like running away or sneaking out of country.
Because the person who helped at the airport has been fired.



The late President was in South Africa on his personal capacity plus friends and well wishers.

The government through the system knew that Late president Lungu is undergoing medical treatment in South Africa.
Did the government send his representative to check on him?



The answer is no?

The permanent secretary for media and information, held a media brief and started talking about the health status of the late former president Lungu.



Was it done in a good faith this can only be answered by many Zambians.
President Lungu died in South Africa in his personal capacity, everything which was done there was done in his private capacity, we didn’t know who paid the medical bills, who was feeding them and who helped them, this can only be answered by his family members and close friends.



The question is?

At what point does this funeral become a state funeral?

Late President Lungu saved this country as a Republican president, but he died as an ordinary person?



At this time the people who are in charge of his funeral are family members.

If the government wants to get involved they should sit down and agree with the family on how the funeral is going to be done.

The government should send noble people with no political affiliation to go and sit down with the family. The government should not bulldoze the way forward.



The government should stop their political cadres from issuing statements because of the sensitivity of this funeral.

What we have seen is the government sending politically inclined people like Lesley Mbula and Enock Kavindele to engage the family, in the eyes of many Zambians these people have lost credibility because of their bias statement  against the late President Lungu and his political party.



Also you cannot send the secretary to the cabinet who was at the center of rejecting the permission for the former president to go for his medical check-ups.

When the family announced the demise of the 6th Republican. The next thing people expected, was the official announcements from the current Republican president Mr Hakainde Hichilema through holding a press briefing to inform the country and the world, not through a Facebook post.



The next thing we expected was the UPND officials to engage the PF officials on how this funeral is going to be handled so that Harmony, peace, unity and love prevailed.

What we are witnessing now is the threat from the UPND members and officials about someone’s funeral. How would someone start threatening me over my father’s funeral ,that is not an African culture.



We have a challenge with this funeral, let us engage our spiritual leaders. In Zambia we have faith based organization like the ZCCB ,CCZ, EFZ and the Muslim community.

The government should come down and accept its responsibility by showing leadership because it is at fault. We need to speak the truth.



The government didn’t allow late President Lungu to go for his routine medical checkup, every Zambian has come to know this truth.

The only way to solve this issue is the government accepting it’s mistakes and apologize to the Zambian people.



The government should engage the church mother bodies to help resolve the issues between the family and the government . This country is heavy divided ,there is a lot of tension we need to resolve this issue, it is very important for the future of this country.



My appeal is to the church they should be coming in very strongly to arrest the situation we are in trouble as a people and as a country.

PRESIDENT HH PRAISED FOR SHUNNING LUXURY HOLIDAYS

By Joseph Moyo

PRESIDENT HH DOESN’T GO ON LUXURY HOLIDAYS. ITS WORK AFTER WORK –

OPINION & ANALYSIS: PRESIDENT HiCHILEMS’s QUIET INFLUENCE ON THE CULTURE OF WORK



By Joseph Moyo, Livingstone , Zambia – Social worker

In my reflections on President Hakainde Hichilema (HH), I have come to appreciate that he has brought a new kind of influence to our country.



Since assuming office, he has demonstrated a lifestyle that differs starkly from his predecessors – a lifestyle that, without fanfare, is beginning to shape how many Zambians think about work, rest, and leadership.



To begin with, I cannot recall a time when President Hichilema has taken a holiday at a luxury resort or game lodge, as many former presidents have done. Instead of seeking out luxurious getaways, he retreats to his farm.



But this is not a retreat in the usual sense – it is more of a working pilgrimage. Time and again, we see him clad in gumboots, surrounded by his livestock, inspecting his crops, or tending to his dams. He chooses not to rest in opulence, but to toil in the soil.



This choice, though personal, is far from insignificant. It speaks volumes. It is leadership by example.

When I look back at Zambia’s past leaders, each has left behind a distinctive legacy – not just of policies, but of influence.



Dr Kenneth Kaunda, for example, was known for his discipline and his rejection of extravagance.

His iconic safari suit became a national symbol; ministers, civil servants, and directors of state enterprises all followed suit – quite literally.



He was a strict, principled man who instilled a spirit of service and a strong stance against corruption.

President Frederick Chiluba brought liberalisation and the free market, but he also brought a new look – from safari suits to Western suits.



Ministers followed his lead, reflecting a shift in economic philosophy and style. President Levy Mwanawasa was best remembered for his fight against corruption, a stance that won him respect far beyond our borders.



Then there was President Rupiah Banda, whose jovial nature and pride in local language were part of his charm.

Michael Sata, “King Cobra”, is remembered for his simplicity and directness.



He could stop his motorcade to interact with citizens, attend church without a heavy security presence, and had a deeply personal connection with ordinary people.

President Edgar Lungu, too, had his defining traits. On one hand, he oversaw significant infrastructure development.



On the other, his era was marked by the rise of *cadreism* – a worrying culture in which political cadres wielded unchecked influence.

That period saw a proliferation of social media images – young men flaunting stacks of cash, expensive alcohol, luxury cars, and business-class flights.



It created a carefree, party-after-party atmosphere that felt detached from the lives of ordinary citizens.

In contrast, President Hichilema has ushered in a different mood – one that feels grounded and purposeful.



He has not gone on foreign holidays. He does not disappear to plush lodges in Mfuwe or Chichele, as some of our past presidents did. Instead, whether it is Easter, Heroes Day, or any public holiday, he is at his farm – working.


And this has had a ripple effect.

Nowadays, I see teachers proudly posting photos of their maize fields or harvests. Ministers share images of their livestock.

Civil servants talk about what they have planted or reaped.



Even journalists at ZNBC – yes, journalists – are showing off their small farms and home gardens on social media.

Gone are the days of showing off wads of cash on mattresses.



Now, people are posting images of sweat and soil, of milk and maize – their honest work on the land.

There is a new kind of pride emerging: pride in hard work, in gumboots, in productivity, in farming.

And why? Because the president himself has made it cool.



He has shown that it is not just acceptable, but admirable, to walk in the mud, to sit atop a haystack, or to milk your cows. It is no longer something to be ashamed of – it is something to aspire to.



That is the cultural shift HH has sparked.

Two main themes emerge from this.

First, his refusal to take luxury holidays sends a message about priorities – that even rest can be productive, and that leadership does not need to be about indulgence.



It is “work after work,” not “party after party.”

Second, he is reclaiming pride in agriculture and land ownership.

He is telling Zambians, through action more than words, that there is dignity in working the land – that we must not look down on those who farm, but admire and emulate them.



And I say all this not as someone who has blindly praised the president.

Like many others, I have raised concerns and offered constructive criticism – not out of spite or disrespect, but from a sense of sacred duty as a citizen. We must hold our leaders accountable.



But that does not mean we cannot recognise the positive where it exists.

In President Hichilema, I see a leader who has not only stayed grounded – literally and figuratively – but who has influenced a quiet cultural renaissance.



He is turning farming into a source of national pride, and reshaping the idea of what it means to lead.

Sometimes, leadership is not about loud speeches or sweeping reforms.



Sometimes, it’s about the quiet strength of a man in gumboots, in the fields, under the sun – showing us all the value of honest work. 
End

Cape Town Underworld Figure Andre Naude Fatally Shot

BREAKING: Cape Town Underworld Figure Andre Naude Fatally Shot



A fatal shooting occurred this afternoon at the intersection of Voortrekker Road and Giel Basson Drive in Parow. Police have established a heavy presence at the scene.



Andre Naude, a notorious figure in Cape Town’s underworld, was pronounced dead at the scene. While social media rumors suggest an assassination, authorities have not confirmed the circumstances or motives behind the attack.


Details, including whether Naude had bodyguards at the time, remain unknown. Naude has long been linked to Cape Town’s organized crime networks and has been surrounded by controversy.


This is a developing story, and more information will be provided as it becomes available.

VOLUNTEER DOCTORS TO RESUME WORK

VOLUNTEER DOCTORS TO RESUME WORK

The Resident Doctors Association of Zambia (RDAZ) has announced that volunteer doctors who had withdrawn their services will now resume work.



RDAZ President, Dr. Paul Chibwe, says the decision follows a mutual agreement reached with the Minister of Health Elijah Muchima, and senior Ministry of Health officials.



Dr. Chibwe explains that the government has committed to addressing the Association’s key demands, including the assimilation of volunteer doctors onto the payroll and employing more doctors in the next recruitment process.



On Wednesday, the Association held a high-level meeting with the Minister of Health, which Dr. Chibwe described as highly productive. He confirmed that all outstanding issues have been amicably resolved through mutual understanding and collaboration.



RDAZ has since thanked the government for its openness and commitment to resolving the matter and has commended its members for their patience and unity during the negotiations.

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LUNGU’s WISH WAS THAT HICHILEMA SHOULD NOT ATTEND HIS FUNERAL – MAKEBI

ECL’s WISH WAS THAT HH SHOULD NOT ATTEND HIS FUNERAL – MAKEBI



A major standoff between the Government and family has marred the repatriation of the remains of the late sixth Republican President Edgar Chagwa Lungu, according to family Spokesperson, Makebi Zulu.



Zulu revealed in a brief live broadcast that a series of meetings with two Government delegations collapsed due to preset conditions suggesting that the family has no role to play in the repatriation arrangements.



Zulu says one of the main wishes of the late former Head of State was that President Hichilema should not be anywhere near his dead body, a wish the family wants to honour.


Zulu says on their part, the family had made private arrangements to repatriate the remains as per the wish of the late former Head of State that she should be repatriated as a private and ordinary citizen.


Zulu hinted that the family was weighing various available options should the Government insist on taking over without honouring the wishes of the former sixth Republican President.



Sources close to the Lungu family say they are not ruling out the option of burying him in South Africa and to later exhume him at an appropriate time to be burrried in Zambia.

Edgar Lungu’s Family Demands the Late Former President’s Body Lie in State at His Residence

ECL’s Family Demands the Late Former President’s Body Lie in State at His Residence – Emmanuel Mwamba

The family of the late former President Edgar Chagwa Lungu has demanded that his body lie in state at his residence, that church services be held in Ndola, Petauke, and Lusaka, and that they be consulted on the list of speakers a set of conditions that has reportedly led to a suspension of funeral and repatriation talks with the government.



This was revealed by Patriotic Front (PF) Information and Publicity Chairperson Emmanuel Mwamba in a Facebook post.

He stated that following several meetings between the family and government delegations initially led by Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation Mulambo Haimbe and later by Secretary to the Cabinet Patrick Kangwa but that no agreement was reached.



According to Mr. Mwamba, the family further insists that Mr. Lungu, who travelled as a private citizen, should be returned as such, with the state only taking charge of the body upon arrival at either Kenneth Kaunda International Airport or Simon Mwansa Kapwepwe International Airport, depending on what is agreed.



He disclosed that tensions rose after the family objected to the presence of some government officials during the meetings, which further contributed to the impasse.



Mr. Mwamba reports that the government, on its part, has maintained that the body must be repatriated to Lusaka immediately and that the state should assume full responsibility from the undertaker in South Africa through to Zambia.



He added that while officials indicated the family’s requests would be taken into account, they would not be automatically accepted.



As of now, neither the government nor the family has issued an official statement confirming or denying these developments.

Lungu repatriation talks suspended: Here are  Some of the Family Demands

Talks Suspended

After rounds of talks with Government delegation led by Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, Mulambo Haimbe and later with Secretary to Cabinet, Mr. Patrick Kangwa.


Some of the Family Demands;

● Request for Church Services in Ndola (place of birth and Churches have been praying for ECL the last week), Petauke (his home area) and Lusaka.



● Body to lie-in-state at ECL residence.(the State can meet its security or secure the body the entire time).



● Have a say on the Speaker’s list.

● He went as a private person, to return as a private person. State to take over at KKIA or Simon Mwansa Kapwepwe International Airport depending on agreed first point of entry.



● there was objection on the presence of some members of the Government delegation.



GOVERNMENT DEMANDS

● Body must be repatriated to Lusaka, Zambia immediately.
● State takes charge of body from Undertaker in South Africa to Lusaka.



● Family Demands may not automatically be accepted.

VIDEO: Family of Late President Lungu Requests Respect for Private Funeral Arrangements

Family of Late President Lungu Requests Respect for Private Funeral Arrangements



Pretoria South Africa , 12th June 2025

The family of Zambia’s late 6th Republican President, Dr. Edgar Chagwa Lungu, has requested that the government respect their decision to handle his funeral privately, in accordance with his expressed wishes.



Dr. Lungu passed away in South Africa on 5th June 2025. Since his passing, two delegations one led by Foreign Affairs Minister Mulambo Haimbe and another by former Vice President Enock Kavindele held meetings with the family. The discussions, however, have not yielded consensus.



In a statement released by family spokesperson Makebi Zulu, the family expressed disappointment at what they described as shifting positions from the government, even after prior agreements had been reached. They emphasized that all logistical preparations had already been put in place to ensure that Dr. Lungu’s wishes were honoured.



“The family finds it difficult to continue engaging with the Government, which has preset conditions that suggest that the family has no say in fundamental issues relating to the manner the deceased is to be mourned.


The family called for understanding from the public, affirming that their intention is to honour Dr. Lungu in a manner befitting his stature while remaining faithful to his personal instructions.

The Lungu Family says President  Hichilema should never be anywhere near the body of  Edgar Lungu

On Thursday 5th June 2025, the 6th Republican President, Dr. Edgar Chagwa Lungu, died in South Africa.

Following his death, the family has had several engagements with the Government of the Republic of Zambia with two delegations.

The first was led by Mr.Mulambo Haimbe, the Minister of Foreign affairs and the Second by Mr. Enock Kavindele, a former vice president who was deputized by Mr. Leslie Mbula, a former secretary to the Cabinet, in the company of Mr. Patrick Kangwa, the current secretary to the cabinet.

At the said meetings, it was made known that the family had already put in place all logistics to address the wishes of the deceased that his mortal remains be conveyed by the family privately.

The family is disturbed by the desire of the Government of the Republic of Zambia to convey the mortal remains of the 6th Republican President in ways that suggest that they have no say in the manner the same will be conveyed and how they desire that he be mourned and not the Government of the Republic of Zambia and that President Hakainde Hichilema should not be anywhere near the body of President Edgar Chagwa Lungu for reasons that have become common cause.

In the conveyance of the remains, it is the desire of the family that the conscience of the deceased should not be betrayed and that the death of the 6th Republican President does not repose any superior rights to the Government that exceed those of the family.

In the said meetings, the Government changed positions on proposals that they earlier said were agreeable after returning from purported consultations.

The family finds it difficult to continue engaging with the Government, which has preset conditions that suggest that the family has no say in the fundamental issues relating to the manner the deceased is to be mourned and the conveyance of his remains.

Matters of conscience for both the deceased and the family should not be sacrificed at the  alter of convenience by the Government.

The family remains committed to the 6th Republican President being mourned in a befitting manner by both the nation, foreign dignitaries and the family.

ARCHBISHOP IGNATIUS CHAMA OF KASAMA SAYS SOME OF THE THINGS BEING SAID ABOUT THE DEATH OF SIXTH PRESIDENT EDGAR CHAGWA LUNGU ARE ADDING SALT TO THE INJURY THE BEREAVED FAMILY HAS SUFFERED

ARCHBISHOP IGNATIUS CHAMA OF KASAMA SAYS SOME OF THE THINGS BEING SAID ABOUT THE DEATH OF SIXTH PRESIDENT EDGAR CHAGWA LUNGU ARE ADDING SALT TO THE INJURY THE BEREAVED FAMILY HAS SUFFERED

Thursday, 12th June, 2025

Archbishop of the Archdiocese of Kasama, Most Reverend Ignatius Chama, has said that some of the things said about the death of sixth (6th) republican president, Edgar Chagwa Lungu, are adding salt to the injury the bereaved family of the late head of state has suffered.


Archbishop Chama said some of the words being said are bringing confusion in the minds of Zambians who have the responsibility of putting to rest the remains of their former president in a dignified and befitting burial.



The Archbishop advises that whatever we say and do should NOT make us shy away from performing this duty which is on the shoulders of the government and the entire country so that late President Lungu’s family finds solace in whatever we say and do.



Indeed, the death of a statesman should NOT leave people divided, he advises, saying on such a death, people ought to use the funeral to work at uniting and harmonizing the country.



Archbishop Chama adds that the country can forego the blessings of using the funeral of late  President Lungu if in mourning him we choose the use of words and deeds that sow seeds of disunity, especially those without any grains of truth and honesty.


The Chief Shepherd of Kasama says during this time of mourning late President Lungu, adding burdens on the bereaved family do NOT help matters as they are just adding problems on the shoulders of an already overburdened family.



He said this when he featured on his Wednesday weekly program of Ishiwi Lyakwa Kachema broadcast on Radio Lutanda yesterday ( Wednesday 11th June 2025)

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DEC refutes Nkandu Luo’s claims of alleged investigations against Dalisto Lungu


**DRUG ENFORCEMENT COMMISSION**
**PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICE**

P/Bag RW 476X, Lusaka – Zambia |Mobile: 0955684343 | dec.info@deczambia.gov.zm

**PRESS STATEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE**



Lusaka, Thursday, 12th June 2025.

**DEC Refutes Nkandu Luo’s Claims of Alleged Investigations Against Dalitso Lungu**



The Drug Enforcement Commission (DEC), is saddened by the false claims circulating through various media platforms in which Nkandu Luo has alleged that the Commission on Wednesday 11th June 2025 did summon and interrogate Mr. Dalitso Lungu, son to the late 6th President of the Republic of Zambia, His Excellency Dr. Edgar Chagwa Lungu.



Members of the public may wish to note that Mr. Dalitso Lungu has not been summoned or interviewed by the Commission in the period mentioned by Nkandu Luo.



The Commission therefore, wishes to dispel Luo’s claims as they are contemptuous, malicious and misleading to the nation.



On the other hand, contrary to information peddled by some unscrupulous people, we wish to clarify that Passports for Dalitso Lungu, Chiyeso Lungu, Tasila Lungu and the former First Lady, Esther Lungu, were never seized as a Bond condition.


The Commission has since had occasion to interact with Dalitso Lungu’s Lawyer who has categorically distanced himself from Nkandu Luo’s claims.


Issued by:

Allan Tamba
Public Relations Officer
Drug Enforcement Commission

Unraveling the Falsehoods, How Senior Counsel Isaac Simbeye Stood Against Misinformation

Unraveling the Falsehoods, How Senior Counsel Isaac Simbeye Stood Against Misinformation



By ; Tobbius Chilembo Hamunkoyo 12/06/25

In the wake of former President Edgar Chagwa Lungu’s passing, the nation found itself in a solemn period of mourning. Emotions ran deep, and citizens sought unity in remembering a leader who had left an undeniable imprint on Zambia’s political landscape.



However, even amid grief, misinformation lurked in the shadows, threatening to distort the truth and manipulate public sentiment.



Among the voices attempting to stir confusion were Patriotic Front (PF) figures Nakachinda, Given Lubinda, and Prof. Nkandu Luo etc. Their claims painted a picture of deliberate obstruction, alleging that the Zambian government had refused to release passports for Dalisto Lungu and Senior Lawyer Counsel Chiyeso Lungu, effectively barring them from attending their late father’s funeral service in South Africa.



The narrative was carefully woven, designed to provoke outrage and deepen divisions.

Yet, in times of uncertainty, truth has its guardians. One of them is Senior Counsel Isaac Simbeye. Known for his unwavering professionalism and astute legal analysis, Simbeye stepped forward, not as a partisan voice, but as an advocate for facts.



With precision, he dismantled the allegations, exposing them for what they were: baseless propaganda aimed at discrediting the government. 



His response was not one of reactionary hostility but of composed clarity.

Through meticulous reasoning, Simbeye refuted the claims, ensuring that Zambians understood the reality of the situation.



His professionalism set him apart from the political theatrics that sought to sway public perception through misinformation. Instead of engaging in speculative debates, he has provided well-founded analysis, allowing truth to rise above manufactured deception. 



For concerned citizens, his intervention is timely. At a moment when emotions threatened to cloud judgment, his integrity served as an anchor.



In the face of relentless attempts to manipulate the narrative, Simbeye reminded Zambia that facts remain stronger than falsehoods. 



As the nation continues to reflect on Edgar Chagwa Lungu’s legacy, it must also recognize the importance of voices like Senior Counsel Isaac Simbeye.



His commitment to professionalism in the midst of political distortion is a testament to the power of truth and integrity. 

Mindset Must Change

PRESIDENT HICHILEMA WAS THE FIRST TO ANNOUNCE ECL’S DEATH ON BEHALF  OF  GOVERNMENT–MWEETWA

PRESIDENT HICHILEMA WAS THE FIRST TO ANNOUNCE ECL’S DEATH ON BEHALF  OF  GOVERNMENT–MWEETWA



By: Sun FM TV Reporter

Chief Government Spokesperson Cornelius Mweetwa says government is taking a careful approach in the matter of repatriation of President Edgar Lungu’s body to Zambia, ensuring that the grieving family is supported during this difficult time.


Speaking during a press engagement, Mr. Mweetwa said a consultative meeting is being held between government representatives led by Secretary to the Cabinet Patrick Kangwa, the family, and key associates of the Patriotic Front (PF) to determine the best way forward.


Mr. Mweetwa, who is also Minister of Information and Media, has emphasized the need for dignity and respect during the funeral of former President Edgar Lungu.
He urged the public to avoid turning the mourning period into a political spectacle, acknowledging that the late president’s family is grieving his loss.


Regarding the announcement of Lungu’s passing, Mr. Mweetwa defended President Hakainde Hichilema, asserting that he was the first to officially confirm the former president’s death.


He explained that the New Dawn administration prioritized verifying the information with President Lungu’s family before making a formal announcement.

LEADERSHIP MOVEMENT MOURNS WITH PF, DONATES 20 BAGS OF MEALIE MEAL

LEADERSHIP MOVEMENT MOURNS WITH PF, DONATES 20 BAGS OF MEALIE MEAL



Leadership movement yesterday 10th June, 2025 donated 20 bags of mealie meal to the funeral center for the Patriotic Front.



The donation was done through LM party Spokesperson Patson K Chalwe who encouraged the PF family to remain strong during these trying moments.



The donation was received by the PF Lusaka district leaders who expressed appreciation and emphasized that the gesture would contribute greatly in taking care of mourners at the funeral.



Earlier, the party President, Dr. Richard Silumbe had signed the book of condolences for the late Dr. Edgar Chagwa Lungu and he emphasized the need for unity in handling the funeral so that the late president would have dignified send off.


In his company were party national chairman and other members of the  National Management Committee.

Barely a few weeks after losing his wife,  Hon. Nixon Chilangwa’s father has passed on

💔 DOUBLE TRAGEDY -CHILANGWA LOSES FATHER WEEKS AFTER BURYING WIFE
…………. A story soaked in sorrow, and tears too heavy to hold back

In a devastating twist of fate, political prisoner Nickson Chilangwa has been struck by yet another unbearable loss of his beloved father, Mr. John Chilangwa, has passed away just three weeks after Nickson laid his wife to rest.

Mr. Chilangwa, who had been admitted to Mansa General Hospital, took his final breath on Wednesday evening, his heart failing under the crushing weight of grief and helplessness.

According to sources at the hospital, the elderly man had been visibly shaken after watching his son bound by political chains silently endure the anguish of burying the love of his life without the comfort of freedom or justice. Those close to the family say Mr. Chilangwa died of a broken heart, having suffered a heart attack triggered by overwhelming sorrow and emotional distress.

This is not just the death of a man. It is the death of peace in a family that has known only pain in recent days. First, a wife. Now, a father. All while a son sits behind bars, carrying a grief no man should have to bear alone.

He was not only mourning a daughter-in-law but he was watching his son wither under the weight of political persecution and personal loss, powerless to protect him, unable to lift the pain.

This is more than tragedy; it is heartbreak in its rawest form.

As Zambia watches, a family crumbles under the silence of the system, and a son weeps behind walls that will never echo his pain.

May Mr. John Chilangwa rest in eternal peace.
And may this nation pause to feel the pain before turning the page.

More details to follow.

June 12, 2025
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HAKAINDE HICHILEMA HICHILEMA: A SYMBOL OF RESTRAINT, WISDOM, AND TRUE LEADERSHIP

HAKAINDE HICHILEMA HICHILEMA: A SYMBOL OF RESTRAINT, WISDOM, AND TRUE LEADERSHIP



By  Wagon Media Team | Western Province

Throughout history, great leaders have often been tested by the harshest of critics and the most turbulent of circumstances. Zambia’s Republican President, Mr. Hakainde Hichilema, is no exception. From the time he entered active politics, he has been mocked, insulted, falsely accused, arrested, and labeled with all manner of names—both when he was in the opposition and even now as Head of State.



Yet, what stands out remarkably is not the noise around him, but the dignified silence and wisdom with which he responds.

President Hichilema has chosen a path not many would take—one of peace over vengeance, discipline over impulse, and humor over bitterness. Despite the power vested in him as Commander-in-Chief, he has never used state machinery to silence his critics. He continues to show a deep respect for democratic values, human rights, and the rule of law.



He could have easily directed the police or defense forces to clamp down on voices that spread falsehoods or stir public unrest. But instead, he remains sober, focused, and anchored in principles. This is the caliber of leadership Zambia needs—leadership that is mature, law-abiding, and people-centered.


In the face of provocation, President Hichilema continues to call for unity, tolerance, and dialogue. He places the country’s peace above personal emotions. This level of restraint is not weakness—it is the mark of a visionary. A leader who understands that power must serve the people, not intimidate them.


As Zambians, we must reflect on this rare and exemplary character. Hichilema’s leadership is not just political—it is a lesson in emotional intelligence, self-control, and true patriotism.



Indeed, President Hakainde Hichilema is not just a leader of today—he is the leader Zambia has been waiting for.

WAGON MEDIA TEAM

A LESSON TO OTHER FAMILIES TO FIRST UNDERSTAND GOVERNANCE MATTERS BEFORE ALLOWING THEIR SONS TO BE PRESIDENTS ELSE THEY WILL EMBARRASS THE COUNTRY ON THE WORLD STAGE LIKE THE LUNGU FAMILY AND THEIR VULTURE POLITICAL ALLIES

By CIC Editors.

CIC EDITORIAL ANALYSIS.

A LESSON TO OTHER FAMILIES TO FIRST UNDERSTAND GOVERNANCE MATTERS BEFORE ALLOWING THEIR SONS TO BE PRESIDENTS ELSE THEY WILL EMBARRASS THE COUNTRY ON THE WORLD STAGE LIKE THE LUNGU FAMILY AND THEIR VULTURE POLITICAL ALLIES.



No lie and truth be told the Lungu family have embarrassed the nation of Zambia and Africa at large they have also embarrassed themselves with their ego. Whatever happens going forward lessons must be learnt to the remaining families of aspiring candidates to please learn and study governance matters before aspiring to hold the highest office of the land. The argument of “Lungu was treated badly” lacks sensible merits in this social media age without first explaining what exactly did he do to deserve such because records are there.

While the nation is trying so hard to restrain itself from descending into the family squabbles of altercations, the Lungu family through their representative Mr Makebi Zulu have continued to hold the nation at ransom with political games and conditions with excuses that don’t make sense. To begin with ECL was a ruthless president the whole nation is aware he was brutal he did not even pretend or hide it not only during his presidency but even post presidency office he harbored extreme hatred towards his friends it’s all known and documented.

Who has forgotten how ECL treated HH how many times did HH get arrested, his house damaged and vandalized, thrown in prison and so on, how many UPND members suffered at the hand of PF cadres in markets, at works, in stations and so on. Lungu presided over a reckless financial state defaulting on international debt obligations. Lungu plunged the country into a financial crisis with no clue how to get back.



Governance wise it was a mess. Overpriced projects with kickbacks to his cronies, inflated figures on simple projects in order to benefit his cartel. Zesco was almost confiscated due to enormous debts it was left it. Simply put Edgar Lungu was a failed project governance wise. We are coming out like this because the Lungu family and their allies perhaps they have forgotten what their member or client to the country such that he deserved his immunity stripped and thrown to jail yet HH did not intend to do that.

Talk of his family members amassing unexplained wealth at the expense of the drowning economy. His son recieved over 70 SUV vehicles as birthday day present. A controversial journalists of his found with millions of dollars. His daughter Chiyeso and indeed Tasila are all facing corruption cases including their step mother Mrs Esther Lungu. Should we include those in jail? Well ask what former Pambashe and Kawambwa MP did before you talk of justice towards them what they did are capital offenses and Lungu watched them quietly law was not done with them.



Amidst all the evidence and grounds of national justice that both the UPND and the nation suffered at the hand of PF with Lungu as it’s president where Zambia was at the brink of collapse due to lawlessness HH chose to offer peace and harmony and left his immunity intact.

Lungu himself announced he is retiring from politics, government moved in to do what the constitution say about the former presidents but political vultures who thrived on his poor health forced him to come back to politics what exactly do the law say about the former president coming back to politics? How are they treated? Who forced Lungu to come back to politics? His family are still facing court cases due to the fact that they need to explain where they got such wealth that has no business background.



Chiluba’s post presidency life was marred with court cases and appearances with his immunity stripped off, Rupiah Banda same thing. Yet someone who mistreated and destroyed the country died with his immunity intact and whatever came on him where his own decisions in the make. Even on his health the same PF kept refusing that he is not sick records are there. How was government going to treat a person who destroyed the country in debts and dragged the nation into violence lawlessness saying he is coming back and he is not sick you think they are foolish?



The LUNGU family and their allies must fool other people because in Zambia no one was born yesterday to fall into their narrative at all. And if they continue with this trajectory it will end badly for them because the nation will remove even the last respect they are supposed to get in order to mourn the former republican president. All this showdown with the government has one end game and motives it’s purely to gain political mileage which the nation unfortunately is not buying.



People are now fed up and are getting irritated with each and every passing day “Lungu was mistreated, Lungu was denied medicals etc” let them be reasonable and come to their senses because their strategy is not only boring but it’s not making sense but shows lack of respect to the nation. Other families who’s son’s and daughters are aspiring as presidents must draw lessons from these moments and learn governance etiquette before embarrassing themselves like the Lungu family.

The interest of government is the fact that Lungu was the head of state whatever Makebi Zulu, Tasila Lungu, Chiyeso or Daliso Lungu rants won’t hold any water Lungu will be buried like all other presidents that have ever ruled Zambia their opinions don’t count.

Government is even trying very hard to restrain itself because it has all the means of getting this thing done as quickly as possible and move on. They are trying to be respectful and reasonable to engage the family not as a sign of desperation or anything but to show the world how sensible leadership ought to be. If it’s HH who died as a former president after mistreating Lungu in opposition God knows what would be happening today.

CIC PRESS TEAM

They Will Visit the Burial Site, But Not the Hospital Bedside: A Cry for Humanity- Thandiwe Ketis Ngoma

They Will Visit the Burial Site, But Not the Hospital Bedside: A Cry for Humanity

By Thandiwe Ketis Ngoma

Oh Lord, this is painful. Deeply painful.

What kind of people have we become? When a nation’s leadership finds it more urgent to prepare a burial site than to allow a sick man the right to seek medical attention, we must ask ourselves whether we have lost our collective soul.



Today, we stand in mourning, but let us not pretend we are mourning in peace. We are mourning in pain, in anger, and in utter disbelief at the inhumanity shown to former President Edgar Chagwa Lungu.



A man who once carried this country through storms and uncertainty was denied his most basic human right: the right to life-saving medical attention. Not because it wasn’t available. Not because he was asking for special treatment. But because the UPND government, under President Hakainde Hichilema, chose cruelty over compassion.



Let us be clear. This was not an accident. This was not a miscommunication. This was a calculated act of political vengeance. It was power used to punish, not to protect.


And now, as the government scrambles to put together a funeral fit for a statesman, we say shame on you. You chose not to stand by his hospital bed when it mattered. You chose not to show up when there was still time to save him.



Instead, you watched as a man’s health deteriorated, and you silenced every voice that dared to call for compassion.

Let it be known, without fear or favor, that President Hakainde Hichilema personally oversaw and sanctioned the blocking of President Lungu’s international medical reviews. Not once, not twice, but three times. This was not just negligence. It was deliberate. It was engineered. It was political cruelty dressed in authority.



President Hakainde Hichilema, what you did to your predecessor, your brother in leadership, is nothing short of betrayal. A betrayal of the Zambian spirit. A betrayal of Christian values. A betrayal of the very humanity we claim to stand for.

And to those who now say, “Let’s not talk about these things during mourning,” with all due respect, no.



That principle does not apply here. Silence is not holy. Silence does not honor the dead. Silence only protects the guilty and enables the cycle of cruelty to continue unchecked.

We must speak. We must cry out.
Because if we don’t, this injustice will be repeated. Maybe not to a president next time, but to an ordinary citizen, to a loved one, to anyone who finds themselves on the wrong side of the political line.



We have watched, for years, as President Lungu has been insulted, harassed, and persecuted by this administration. Even in his death, we have continued to witness the likes of Koswe, Laura Miti, the Nigerian Sangoma and scammer known as Seer 1, and other UPND cadres who have made it their full-time job to tear down a former head of state. And now, even Chilufya Tayali, a man fleeing justice and hiding abroad, has been recruited by this government. One wonders under what conditions he was embraced by the propaganda machine.



This is not Christianity. This is not Ubuntu. This is not leadership.

A Christian nation does not use power to torment the sick.
A Christian nation does not mourn the dead while ignoring the causes of their death.
A Christian nation does not allow fear and silence to take the place of truth.

And to those who attempt to justify this cruelty by pointing to President Hichilema’s past imprisonment, please stop.



Let us remind you. President Hichilema was imprisoned after he and his UPND entourage deliberately blocked a presidential motorcade. That is a clear security threat and a criminal offense by every legal and international standard. That singular act could have ended tragically in many other nations, not with arrest, but with irreversible consequences.

Yet after his release, the case was quietly dropped through a nolle prosequi. Hichilema knows what he did was wrong. He knows the danger of that stunt. But he has never publicly acknowledged the recklessness of his actions. Instead, he now uses that episode as political currency while denying his predecessor the very mercy he once cried out for.



So no, his past suffering is not a license to be inhumane. It is not justification for vengeance disguised as governance.

Let this moment be a reckoning. Let it mark the beginning of a new moral conscience in our country. Because if we do not call out this wrong now, we allow it to be normalized.



Let the truth be known.

President Lungu was denied care three times.
He was treated as an enemy instead of a fellow Zambian.
And President Hakainde Hichilema must answer for this before the people and before God.


Never again should we witness a funeral convoy before we see an ambulance.
Never again should we bury our conscience alongside our leaders.
Never again should our silence be mistaken for peace.

Because today, it is President Lungu.
Tomorrow, it could be you.

New poll finds hardly anyone supports Republicans’ ‘big, beautiful bill’

A new Quinnipiac Poll shows that President Donald Trump and his 2026 budget, which he refers to as the “big, beautiful bill,” are underwater with the American public.

Huffington Post senior politics editor Kevin Robillard posted screen captures of the crosstabs on X, showing that just 27% of Americans support the bill. He also noted that polling specifically looking at attitudes on the GOP tax bill has “been relatively rare.”

Democrats are also “far more likely to have an opinion on the bill than Republicans and Independents,” Robillard added.

“Among independents, it’s 37 points underwater,” said NBC News’ Sahil Kapur.

Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) noted that the poll also found only 10% of Americans support the cuts to Medicaid included in the budget bill passed by the House.

“Last month, nearly every House Republican voted for the largest Medicaid cut in American history,” Nadler wrote on X. “Today, they have a choice when they vote for technical changes to reconciliation: Double down on stripping health care from millions, or finally listen to the overwhelming majority of Americans and vote no on $800 billion in devastating Medicaid cuts.”

“The poll also has a very bad approval rating for Trump, with 38% approval and 54% disapproval, so I would expect it to also be more negative on the tax bill than some other surveys might be,” he also cited.

That is a dramatic drop for Trump. It also shows that he’s falling behind in the economy, once his best issue. Polling from Marquette University Law School three weeks ago showed Trump slipping by 16% in his handling of the economy, with just 42% approving of his handling and 58% against.

In the Quinnipiac Poll released Wednesday, 51% of Americans believe that the economy is “worse” under Trump. Only 28% think it’s improved.

Pennsylvania Capital-Star correspondent Nick Field noticed that Americans also want to continue granting birthright citizenship, with 64% in support and 31% opposed.

Data journalist G. Elliott Morris cautioned it’s “possible this isn’t the dominant issue for Trump that some people have assumed! Trump at -11 net approval on immigration and -16 on deportations in new Quinnipiac poll.”

FUEL DEBT HITS USD 877 MILLION AS OF JUNE 2024

FUEL DEBT HITS USD 877 MILLION AS OF JUNE 2024

By Cherish Sibote

Zambia’s Minister of Energy Makoze Chikote has revealed that, as of July 2021, the country had accumulated a total of USD 477.8 million in petroleum procurement debt.



Responding to a question from Lunte Member of Parliament Mutotwe Kafwaya regarding how much debt the Government had incurred for fuel procurement, Mr. Chikote stated that by July 2021, the USD 477.8 million debt had accrued an additional USD 197.6 million in interest.



Mr. Chikote said that by June 2024, the total petroleum debt had risen to USD 877.2 million.

He added that the Government has managed to pay USD 109 million, reducing the outstanding balance to USD 521.7 million.



He further stated that the Government has successfully negotiated the removal of contractual interest charges to prevent the debt from increasing further.


However, he noted that it is currently not possible to provide a definitive timeline for when the debt will be fully dismantled.